>
> Stef,
>
> In terms of response times, even with a lot of things turned off, I  
> was still surprised at how long it takes to change from even one  
> method to another.

which browser are you using.
Because the old browser should not be that slow.


> Anything past 0.2 sec (or whatever that threshold is) starts to add  
> up; Pharo sometimes takes up to a second, which is _really_ shows up.
>
> Saving an image is not necessarily quick either, I _think_  
> particuarly on Linux??

What is the size of your image: here jannik generated an image of 800  
mb.

>  Also, I get the sense the wait cursors are displayed, on Linux, for  
> a smaller fraction of the down time than on Windows.
>
> Bill
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] 
> [mailto:[email protected] 
> ] On Behalf Of Stéphane Ducasse
> Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 12:58 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] Making some progress, and a few  
> observations
>
>
> On Jul 15, 2009, at 6:04 PM, Schwab,Wilhelm K wrote:
>
>> Hello all,
>>
>> I managed to create an install script; as I suspected would be case,
>> it was very anticlimactic.  I tried creating a password-protected
>> directory under my personal web site, but that did not go well.  The
>> authentication is weird, so it was probably asking a lot.  A  
>> directory
>> repository worked.
>
> Good to know
>> Does Monticello/PackageInfo see a change in method category (aka
>> package) as a change to the package?
>
> normally it should.
>
>> It appears not, and it worries me a little in that it seems to make  
>> it
>> easy to lose work by forgetting to save it.  Do any of you script
>> saving your packages?
>
> you can check in ScriptLoader to see how we compute the packages  
> that changed (not only dirty but also new packages)
>
>> The results are untested at present, but I used SIF to transfer a  
>> fair
>> amount of code into Pharo.  To cope with the naming of the ODBC
>> classes, I ended up doing things like Smalltalk at:#DBConnection
>> put:ODBCConnection, and that worked out nicely, at least AFAICT at
>> this stage.  SIF finally ended up complaining about running out of
>> items when processing the last file.  I reserve the right to later
>> report that it was a miserable failure, but it looks like I most of
>> the code imported.
>>
>> Using the standard tools, the w2k theme, disabling faded backgrounds
>> and enabling fast drag, performance on an older Linux system is ok
>> (more or less).  There are still things that take too long,
>
> like what?
>
>> and Pharo's responses are no better (sometimes worse) than even
>> software running over a remote desktop connection.  We need a speed
>> boost, but judicious settings help a little.
>>
>> Is there a way to disable the anti-aliased fonts?  In fairness, I
>> should try turning that off to see if any speed boost is worth the
>> price.
>>
>> Bill
>>
>>
>>
>>
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