If that helps...
0 tinyBenchmarks
Windows XP, 2002, SP3
Pentium 4, dual core, 3Ghz, 2 Gb RAM
All tests were run 5 times and here are the averages :
Some comparisons:
Squeak 3.9 latest update: #7067
76297334 bytecodes/sec; 3397437 sends/sec
Squeak 3.10.2 latest update: #7179
74839234 bytecodes/sec; 3443964 sends/sec
Pharo 0.1 latest update: #10377
75877223 bytecodes/sec; 3134820 sends/sec
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From: Gary Chambers <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 6:51:59 AM
Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] Making some progress, and a few observations
In the Windows camp, Watery2 theme...
Vista 64bit (32bit VM, of course), 4GB DDR2-800, Q9550 (2.8GHz),
Pharo0.1Core-10371.
0 tinyBenchmarks '569205113 bytecodes/sec; 16188534 sends/sec'
Time millisecondsToRun: [
Browser fullOnClass: Object selector: #at:.
World displayWorld] 373
Older laptop, XP, 1GB, Pentium M (1.73 GHz)...
0 tinyBenchmarks '294761082 bytecodes/sec; 8530869 sends/sec'
Time millisecondsToRun: [
Browser fullOnClass: Object selector: #at:.
World displayWorld] 677
Still feels quite responsive even on that!
Regards, Gary
----- Original Message -----
From: "Schwab,Wilhelm K" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>; <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 2:07 AM
Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] Making some progress, and a few observations
On my crusty old Linux box:
155339805 bytecodes/sec; 3931964 sends/sec
However, I always like to test on less than my customers will have, so by
some arguments, this machine is just about right.
Bill
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From: [email protected]
[[email protected]] On Behalf Of Alain Plantec
[[email protected]]
Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 6:19 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] Making some progress, and a few observations
Adrian Lienhard a écrit :
> Bill,
>
> Could you post the results of the following benchmark?
>
> 0 tinyBenchmarks
>
> On my MacBook Pro with 2.4GHz and the Mac 4.1.1beta2U VM I get:
>
> '543236074 bytecodes/sec; 12101592 sends/sec'
>
On Intel Core2 Duo T7700 at 2.4 GHz, Linux Ubuntu 9.04, 64 bit
pharo-core : #10379 '585812356 bytecodes/sec; 14531440 sends/sec'
pharo : #10373 '574312955 bytecodes/sec; 14261923 sends/sec'
not so bad with linux :)
Cheers
Alain
> Cheers,
> Adrian
>
> On Jul 15, 2009, at 22:34 , Schwab,Wilhelm K wrote:
>
>
>> Stef,
>>
>> No browser should be that slow. I suspect the Linux vm is not a
>> speed demon, the xp machines I use are heavily burdened by anit-
>> virus software and other performance drains, etc. My linux box at
>> home might be further hindered by the fact that I bought a wide
>> screen monitor for it, and use LOTS of screen real estate. Still,
>> when I compare Pharo with other software (including Dolphin) under
>> similarly abusive conditions, Pharo is not quick.
>>
>> This particular image is small; it is based on the most recent web
>> image, and is 22 MB. It has some of my Seaside code in it, but has
>> not yet executed same. I have a couple of Seaside cleanup
>> expressions that help when images bloat up, but looking at the
>> current size makes me think I'm missing an opportunity. All that
>> aside, on my linux box, I find that after the saving cursor
>> disappears, it can take a few seconds for the image to again become
>> responsive. On xp in my office, there is at least a second of down
>> time after the cursor reverts to normal.
>>
>> In doing some SIF imports, I noted that it was hard to tell when the
>> image was still busy. I have no idea how long it should take to do
>> the work it was doing, but it took long enough that some gentle
>> prodding becomes irresistable: "is it done yet?" I remember lots of
>> debate about Cursor class>>showWhile: on Dolphin; it might be one of
>> those things that is tricky to get right.
>>
>> A little bit nicer news: I have it running on my office machine
>> (xp), with FreeType in use, and it's ok with the standard tools and
>> the w2k theme.
>>
>> Bill
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [email protected]
>> [mailto:[email protected]
>> ] On Behalf Of Stéphane Ducasse
>> Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 2:31 PM
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] Making some progress, and a few
>> observations
>>
>>
>>> Stef,
>>>
>>> In terms of response times, even with a lot of things turned off, I
>>> was still surprised at how long it takes to change from even one
>>> method to another.
>>>
>> which browser are you using.
>> Because the old browser should not be that slow.
>>
>>
>>
>>> Anything past 0.2 sec (or whatever that threshold is) starts to add
>>> up; Pharo sometimes takes up to a second, which is _really_ shows up.
>>>
>>> Saving an image is not necessarily quick either, I _think_
>>> particuarly
>>> on Linux??
>>>
>> What is the size of your image: here jannik generated an image of
>> 800 mb.
>>
>>
>>> Also, I get the sense the wait cursors are displayed, on Linux, for a
>>> smaller fraction of the down time than on Windows.
>>>
>>> Bill
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: [email protected]
>>> [mailto:[email protected]
>>> ] On Behalf Of Stéphane Ducasse
>>> Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 12:58 PM
>>> To: [email protected]
>>> Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] Making some progress, and a few
>>> observations
>>>
>>>
>>> On Jul 15, 2009, at 6:04 PM, Schwab,Wilhelm K wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hello all,
>>>>
>>>> I managed to create an install script; as I suspected would be case,
>>>> it was very anticlimactic. I tried creating a password-protected
>>>> directory under my personal web site, but that did not go well. The
>>>> authentication is weird, so it was probably asking a lot. A
>>>> directory repository worked.
>>>>
>>> Good to know
>>>
>>>> Does Monticello/PackageInfo see a change in method category (aka
>>>> package) as a change to the package?
>>>>
>>> normally it should.
>>>
>>>
>>>> It appears not, and it worries me a little in that it seems to make
>>>> it easy to lose work by forgetting to save it. Do any of you script
>>>> saving your packages?
>>>>
>>> you can check in ScriptLoader to see how we compute the packages that
>>> changed (not only dirty but also new packages)
>>>
>>>
>>>> The results are untested at present, but I used SIF to transfer a
>>>> fair amount of code into Pharo. To cope with the naming of the ODBC
>>>> classes, I ended up doing things like Smalltalk at:#DBConnection
>>>> put:ODBCConnection, and that worked out nicely, at least AFAICT at
>>>> this stage. SIF finally ended up complaining about running out of
>>>> items when processing the last file. I reserve the right to later
>>>> report that it was a miserable failure, but it looks like I most of
>>>> the code imported.
>>>>
>>>> Using the standard tools, the w2k theme, disabling faded backgrounds
>>>> and enabling fast drag, performance on an older Linux system is ok
>>>> (more or less). There are still things that take too long,
>>>>
>>> like what?
>>>
>>>
>>>> and Pharo's responses are no better (sometimes worse) than even
>>>> software running over a remote desktop connection. We need a speed
>>>> boost, but judicious settings help a little.
>>>>
>>>> Is there a way to disable the anti-aliased fonts? In fairness, I
>>>> should try turning that off to see if any speed boost is worth the
>>>> price.
>>>>
>>>> Bill
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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