On Wed, 30 Dec 2009, Schwab,Wilhelm K wrote: > Levente, > > I'll give you a pass on RPC, on SOAP for sure, and _almost_ on CORBA :) > However, a culture of dismissing important things as crap lead us to a point > approaching 15 years into Squeak's existence where it does not have ready > access to SSL. I know about stunnel, but that is more cheat than fix. Pharo > needs to embrace the worthy or we will still be on the fringe 15 years from > now, and that would be tragic.
There's an SSL implementation in the Cryptography package, though I don't know if it works or not. If CORBA is so important then why doesn't exist a free smalltalk implementation after 18 years? Levente > > Bill > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Levente > Uzonyi > Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2009 7:14 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] Developer guide ... ? > > On Wed, 30 Dec 2009, Schwab,Wilhelm K wrote: > >> Levente, >> >> I have to call you out on something: SSL is **definitely** not crap, and we >> should have a clean interface to it, probably via OpenSSL. I will >> eventually create same if not beaten to it. > > That's true, I was thinking about the rpc stuff. > >> >> CORBA is also not crap. To be blunt, none of the listed technologies are >> crap if one has an externally defined problem (aka something that pay$ the >> bill$) that requires communicating with something that uses them. I will >> grant you that most of them have a pretty high crap coefficient, and I would >> not go out of my way to use them unless "forced" to do so. >> > > Crap may not be the best word (but fits really well IMO), so overcomplicated > bloatware. > > > Levente > >> Bill >> >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] >> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Levente >> Uzonyi >> Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2009 5:45 PM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] Developer guide ... ? >> >> On Wed, 30 Dec 2009, Guido Stepken wrote: >> >> [snip] >> >> As others pointed out, these are implemented with blocks. What would you do >> if, say you wanted to know how to do threading in java? Reading a book or >> googling is helpful: >> - http://www.google.com/search?q=squeak+threads >> (I guess a chapter on processes would be useful in PBE/SBE.) >> >>> 5. Standards: XML-RPC, SOAP, RMI, CORBA, .... encryption (SSL) ... >>> Without having a precise idea, where to find working examples to >>> exchance data with other systems, i would hesitate to begin to do projects >>> with Pharo/Squeak... >> >> Some of this crap is available at squeaksource/squeakmap. >> >> Levente >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list [email protected] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project
