I'm completely newcomer to Smalltalk and I think it was a good idea. Il giorno mer, 10/03/2010 alle 14.08 +0000, stan shepherd ha scritto: > I know the deadline approaches, however- how does the community feel > about a project to implement a real demonstration system (along the > lines of defunct Sushi store)? Presumably in Seaside, but whichever > framework the community/mentor/student decided on. With a nice > interface using (again presumptively) jQueryUI to give a pleasant > end-user experience. Similarly implementing a persistence solution. > The idea is to present potential newcomers to Smalltalk with a viable > stack that could be picked up as is, to give a starting point for > developing web applications. Potentially they could simply make a > hosted copy, on the same server. > > The idea would be that on the various examples page, you could access > an e-commerce site running a Smalltalk technology stack. Ideally > really selling something Smalltalk related, (proceeds to eg ESUG), > maybe also an Amazon affiliate page . If you liked it, you could copy > the whole project, change eg your Paypal details, change your > products, and be in business. (Obviously there are real world > considerations - this is the concept). And coders looking for examples > would see code that was fully completed, not onClick: (... some alert > saying you clicked but no real example of how to handle it, eg how to > transfer the order line details to the payments server). > > I think it would do wonders for the take-up of Smalltalk. > > If people like the idea in general, I'm happy to write up the brief. I > don't think i'm the right person for the mentor, but you know who you > are ;) > > For the student, they would get experience in implementing the > application itself , as well as assembling the stack. They could be > the next Auctomatic founders. > > Do people think it's useful for me to develop a proposal? > > Cheers, ..Stan > > PS I realise that picking a component as part of the stack is fraught > with possibilities of offending supporters of an alternative project. > But more Smalltalkers overall means more potential users of each > project > > > On 6 March 2010 12:04, Mariano Martinez Peck <[email protected]> wrote: > > Hi smalltalkers. I have been asked to be the admin of GSoC 2010. The backup > > or second admin is Janko Mivšek. As you may know, Squeak has participated in > > GSoC 2007, 2008 but failed (not accepted) in 2009. We are not sure if we > > will succeed this year but we will try to do as much as possible. > > > > We think that one of the most important reasons why we failed in 2009 is > > that Google was looking for bigger communities that Squeak. This is why this > > year we all go under the ESUG umbrella. We present ESUG as the mentor > > organization and we cover ALL open-source Smalltalk dialects, not only > > Squeak. Pharo, Smalltalk/X, GNU Smalltalk, Cuis..they are all invited to > > participate. Also cross platform projects like Seaside, AidaWeb, Magma, etc > > are welcome. > > > > <forThoseWhoDoesntKnowWhatGSoCIs> > > It is a Google program that support (money) students to work on different > > open-source projects. Google doesn't talk or manage directly to the students > > but trough "Mentoring Organisations". Those organizations have to apply to > > GSoC. They have to give a lot of information, included a list of > > ideas/projects. Each project has a description and a mentor. Then the > > students apply for each project. If the organization gets selected by Google > > they will tell you how many "slots" they give. Suppose they give 5 but we > > have 20 projects....then we vote and the most voted projects win. The > > student has to do the project and the mentor has to help and guide him. The > > mentor receives 500 USD and the student 4500USD. > > For more information read: http://code.google.com/soc/ > > </forThoseWhoDoesntKnowWhatGSoCIs> > > > > The most important thing is the deadlines we have. We started late so we are > > very near to the first deadline which is 12/03/2010 (less than one week). > > For that deadline we need to submit all the information of the mentor > > organization (answering several questions) and give the list of > > ideas/projects and the mentors of that. > > > > We have created a webpage (Thanks Janko!!) where we will put all the > > information. We will make this page public soon (we still need to review a > > couple of things). > > But for the moment we would REALLY appreciate if tell us your ideas. To do > > this, just answer to this email. Then we will collect the information and > > put in the website. For each idea you need: a short title and a paragraph > > (for the moment) explaining the idea. > > After, we need that the people that are willing to be mentors start to apply > > as mentors...please, consider yourself being mentor. Sometimes it is not > > that difficult. I mean, don't be shy as sometimes being helpful, being aware > > of the dates, answering emails, etc is more important than the Smalltalk > > knoweldege. We can have a lot of ideas, but we need also mentors for that. > > We even would need a "substitute" for each mentor... > > > > Just as an example you can see the ideas of the previous years: > > 2007: http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/5936 > > 2008: http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/6031 > > 2009: http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/6120 > > > > That's all for the moment. > > > > Cheers > > > > Mariano > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > seaside mailing list > > [email protected] > > http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/seaside > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project
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