welcome! On Mar 10, 2010, at 3:26 PM, Massimiliano Bertinetti wrote:
> I'm completely newcomer to Smalltalk and I think it was a good idea. > > Il giorno mer, 10/03/2010 alle 14.08 +0000, stan shepherd ha scritto: >> I know the deadline approaches, however- how does the community feel >> about a project to implement a real demonstration system (along the >> lines of defunct Sushi store)? Presumably in Seaside, but whichever >> framework the community/mentor/student decided on. With a nice >> interface using (again presumptively) jQueryUI to give a pleasant >> end-user experience. Similarly implementing a persistence solution. >> The idea is to present potential newcomers to Smalltalk with a viable >> stack that could be picked up as is, to give a starting point for >> developing web applications. Potentially they could simply make a >> hosted copy, on the same server. >> >> The idea would be that on the various examples page, you could access >> an e-commerce site running a Smalltalk technology stack. Ideally >> really selling something Smalltalk related, (proceeds to eg ESUG), >> maybe also an Amazon affiliate page . If you liked it, you could copy >> the whole project, change eg your Paypal details, change your >> products, and be in business. (Obviously there are real world >> considerations - this is the concept). And coders looking for examples >> would see code that was fully completed, not onClick: (... some alert >> saying you clicked but no real example of how to handle it, eg how to >> transfer the order line details to the payments server). >> >> I think it would do wonders for the take-up of Smalltalk. >> >> If people like the idea in general, I'm happy to write up the brief. I >> don't think i'm the right person for the mentor, but you know who you >> are ;) >> >> For the student, they would get experience in implementing the >> application itself , as well as assembling the stack. They could be >> the next Auctomatic founders. >> >> Do people think it's useful for me to develop a proposal? >> >> Cheers, ..Stan >> >> PS I realise that picking a component as part of the stack is fraught >> with possibilities of offending supporters of an alternative project. >> But more Smalltalkers overall means more potential users of each >> project >> >> >> On 6 March 2010 12:04, Mariano Martinez Peck <[email protected]> wrote: >>> Hi smalltalkers. I have been asked to be the admin of GSoC 2010. The backup >>> or second admin is Janko Mivšek. As you may know, Squeak has participated in >>> GSoC 2007, 2008 but failed (not accepted) in 2009. We are not sure if we >>> will succeed this year but we will try to do as much as possible. >>> >>> We think that one of the most important reasons why we failed in 2009 is >>> that Google was looking for bigger communities that Squeak. This is why this >>> year we all go under the ESUG umbrella. We present ESUG as the mentor >>> organization and we cover ALL open-source Smalltalk dialects, not only >>> Squeak. Pharo, Smalltalk/X, GNU Smalltalk, Cuis..they are all invited to >>> participate. Also cross platform projects like Seaside, AidaWeb, Magma, etc >>> are welcome. >>> >>> <forThoseWhoDoesntKnowWhatGSoCIs> >>> It is a Google program that support (money) students to work on different >>> open-source projects. Google doesn't talk or manage directly to the students >>> but trough "Mentoring Organisations". Those organizations have to apply to >>> GSoC. They have to give a lot of information, included a list of >>> ideas/projects. Each project has a description and a mentor. Then the >>> students apply for each project. If the organization gets selected by Google >>> they will tell you how many "slots" they give. Suppose they give 5 but we >>> have 20 projects....then we vote and the most voted projects win. The >>> student has to do the project and the mentor has to help and guide him. The >>> mentor receives 500 USD and the student 4500USD. >>> For more information read: http://code.google.com/soc/ >>> </forThoseWhoDoesntKnowWhatGSoCIs> >>> >>> The most important thing is the deadlines we have. We started late so we are >>> very near to the first deadline which is 12/03/2010 (less than one week). >>> For that deadline we need to submit all the information of the mentor >>> organization (answering several questions) and give the list of >>> ideas/projects and the mentors of that. >>> >>> We have created a webpage (Thanks Janko!!) where we will put all the >>> information. We will make this page public soon (we still need to review a >>> couple of things). >>> But for the moment we would REALLY appreciate if tell us your ideas. To do >>> this, just answer to this email. Then we will collect the information and >>> put in the website. For each idea you need: a short title and a paragraph >>> (for the moment) explaining the idea. >>> After, we need that the people that are willing to be mentors start to apply >>> as mentors...please, consider yourself being mentor. Sometimes it is not >>> that difficult. I mean, don't be shy as sometimes being helpful, being aware >>> of the dates, answering emails, etc is more important than the Smalltalk >>> knoweldege. We can have a lot of ideas, but we need also mentors for that. >>> We even would need a "substitute" for each mentor... >>> >>> Just as an example you can see the ideas of the previous years: >>> 2007: http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/5936 >>> 2008: http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/6031 >>> 2009: http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/6120 >>> >>> That's all for the moment. >>> >>> Cheers >>> >>> Mariano >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> seaside mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/seaside >>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list [email protected] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project
