Hi john 

Excellent! I forgot to thank the local organizers like michele, alain that help 
us to make money with the conference organization. 
You know when we took over ESUG we dreamed of making things but the money was 
not there because the conference in itself was the goal and this was ok. 
But we wanted to do more :)

BTW did you say that to the scratch people? May be you should mention that to 
etoyers and squeakers too. May be etoy could run on iPhone/iPad?
We are happy to get scratch further too. I heard rumors that they would rewrite 
everything in another language
so the iphone and ipad support may be the best way to keep them in smalltalk. I 
hope. 

I have a question. I could not try yet (I asked mariano to play with an ipod 
touch and we will buy an ipad)
is scratch working ok from a speed point of view on an ipod touch?

On Mar 10, 2010, at 9:52 PM, John M McIntosh wrote:

> 
> On 2010-03-09, at 11:28 PM, Stéphane Ducasse wrote:
> 
>> who knows? 
>> Some people with a small vision :)
>> 
>> And may be some people may not have noticed that over the years some open 
>> source dialect got a lot out of ESUG
>> and they could insinuate that ESUG coudl be against it. 
>> We did not put all the cost of the actions because we are not that picky
>> but a project is about 2500 Euros, and summertalk was 1500 Euros now 2500 
>> Euros
>> and cleaning Squeak VM for example cost several project cost. 
> 
> Because of that, (Squeak for the Macintosh V5 and iSqueak v2.x ) It made it 
> possible for me to implement a Scratch viewer for the iPhone 
> If you check the reviews at 
> http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/scratch/id358266270?mt=8
> You'll see it made a lot of 12 years old kids happy. Although the kids don't 
> directly see the ESUG funding here, it did have an impact in their lives.
> Also out of it the MIT folks will have a transition platform (Scratch on the 
> iPad) to explore UI issues with. 
> 
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