On Mar 10, 2010, at 10:56 PM, John M McIntosh wrote: > > On 2010-03-10, at 1:20 PM, Stéphane Ducasse wrote: > >> Hi john >> BTW did you say that to the scratch people? May be you should mention that >> to etoyers and squeakers too. May be etoy could run on iPhone/iPad? > > Ah, ok I'll send a note to John Maloney then so he understands the side > effects of ESUG funding. > There isn't a technical reason *why* eToys couldn't run on an iPad. I can't > speak for performance, or issues about approval tho. > Plus you need to port the ogg plugin, and as always how does the software > engineer get paid?
Ok fair. >> We are happy to get scratch further too. I heard rumors that they would >> rewrite everything in another language >> so the iphone and ipad support may be the best way to keep them in >> smalltalk. I hope. > > They have done work with Java, and I believe Flash. Unfortunately the 400 > kilogram gorilla in the room (Apple) has > managed to choose neither, :) send him banana to compliment him :) > which then makes it rough for them to work with the iPad. > >> >> I have a question. I could not try yet (I asked mariano to play with an ipod >> touch and we will buy an ipad) >> is scratch working ok from a speed point of view on an ipod touch? > > Some projects are good, some are poor. John Maloney sent me some graphic test > cases. > We see a full background frame takes Squeak about 80 ms to render to the > Squeak Display form, > for a sprite it's about 32 milliseconds. The time taken to take the Squeak > Display form and splash on > the glass is near zero. A few hours last night spent fiddling with compiler > magic and other things showed > the current setting I'm using are optimal. 60%+ of the time is in copyLoop > anyway. > > So it's all about optimization in the Smalltalk code. Ok we should continue pushing that. > Rumour is an iPad is much faster. > > -- > =========================================================================== > John M. McIntosh <[email protected]> Twitter: squeaker68882 > Corporate Smalltalk Consulting Ltd. http://www.smalltalkconsulting.com > =========================================================================== > > > > _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list [email protected] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project
