On 2010-03-10, at 1:20 PM, Stéphane Ducasse wrote: > Hi john > BTW did you say that to the scratch people? May be you should mention that to > etoyers and squeakers too. May be etoy could run on iPhone/iPad?
Ah, ok I'll send a note to John Maloney then so he understands the side effects of ESUG funding. There isn't a technical reason *why* eToys couldn't run on an iPad. I can't speak for performance, or issues about approval tho. Plus you need to port the ogg plugin, and as always how does the software engineer get paid? > We are happy to get scratch further too. I heard rumors that they would > rewrite everything in another language > so the iphone and ipad support may be the best way to keep them in smalltalk. > I hope. They have done work with Java, and I believe Flash. Unfortunately the 400 kilogram gorilla in the room (Apple) has managed to choose neither, which then makes it rough for them to work with the iPad. > > I have a question. I could not try yet (I asked mariano to play with an ipod > touch and we will buy an ipad) > is scratch working ok from a speed point of view on an ipod touch? Some projects are good, some are poor. John Maloney sent me some graphic test cases. We see a full background frame takes Squeak about 80 ms to render to the Squeak Display form, for a sprite it's about 32 milliseconds. The time taken to take the Squeak Display form and splash on the glass is near zero. A few hours last night spent fiddling with compiler magic and other things showed the current setting I'm using are optimal. 60%+ of the time is in copyLoop anyway. So it's all about optimization in the Smalltalk code. Rumour is an iPad is much faster. -- =========================================================================== John M. McIntosh <[email protected]> Twitter: squeaker68882 Corporate Smalltalk Consulting Ltd. http://www.smalltalkconsulting.com =========================================================================== _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list [email protected] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project
