+1 to all your comments, included moving System about. On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 12:35 PM, Torsten Bergmann <[email protected]> wrote:
> +2 for Laurent/Mariano and -1 for Stef here: > > Why I agree with Laurent and Mariano: > > - every app has a help menu > - in almost any case such a help menu is at the top level of > menus/toolbars/context menues > - if one needs help then it should be easily accessible > since it means the end user is lost and needs guidance > > Why I disagree with Stef: > - currently "Help" is really HIDDEN under "System" > (it's not obvious to a newbie, I tried with a > friend today) > - having it under "System" is too technical - think of any > kind of end user help than (technical) system help > (If you deploy a commercial app based on Pharo you > still have "Help" but no "System" menu) > - it is not a menu with a one item since AFAIK it could > be extended and the idea was to place also ProfStef under > it (when loaded in Pharo dev) or other help related stuff > > I understand we need to be careful about long menus, but > then I would rather see "Debug" moved under "System" > since it's a rare use case compared to looking for help. > > So I would vote for having it always as the last entry in > the middle section of the world menu: > > Monticello Browser > _____________ > - Tools > - Windows > - System > -- Debug > -- ... > - Whatever 1 > - Whatever 2 > - Help > -- Help Contents -> full Browser > -- ProfStef -> when loaded > -- ... > -- About -> Info dialog > _____________ > Save > Save as... > > That's easy recognizable even when the menu is extended/changed. > I would also place the "About" as the last item under "Help" > since this is also a typical place for it. > > This discussion may not be important to most of us but > usability is key to acceptance and success. > > My 0,02€ > > Bye > T. > > > -- > GMX DSL: Internet-, Telefon- und Handy-Flat ab 19,99 EUR/mtl. > Bis zu 150 EUR Startguthaben inklusive! http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/dsl > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >
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