Just a meta remark... In this thread 8 people have sent a total of 30 mails. But in the end nobody volunteers to do the (not very hard) work to make what was discussed actually happen. Was this a bikeshed.com discussion? Maybe not since designing good menus is complex and important. But my point is that we should take care, as a community, to not only invest into discussions but at least as much into *doing*.
Cheers, Adrian On Jun 16, 2010, at 08:42 , Adrian Lienhard wrote: > OK, since there seems no opposition lets change it as proposed. > > Any taker? > > Adrian > > On Jun 15, 2010, at 09:17 , Stéphane Ducasse wrote: > >> >> On Jun 14, 2010, at 10:07 PM, Adrian Lienhard wrote: >> >>> OK, Torsten has some good points (like, why not doing it right now rather >>> than later?)! I took the proposal of Torsten from an earlier mail and >>> tweaked it a bit. This shows the complete world menu including sub menus: >>> >>> System Browser >>> Workspace >>> Test Runner >>> Monticello Browser >>> -------------------- >>> Tools >>> ... (<-as today) >>> Windows >>> Collapse all windows >>> Expand all windows >>> Close top window <<<< we could remove that since you can also press the >>> button >>> Close all debuggers >>> Send top window to back >>> Move window onscreen >>> Delete unchanged windows >>> System >>> About... >>> Settings >>> -------------- >>> VM statistics >>> Start profiling all processes >>> Start profiling UI >>> -------------- >>> Start drawing again >>> Start stepping again >>> -------------- >>> Restore display >>> Enable halt inspect once >>> Help >>> Help Browser >>> ProfStef Tutorial >>> Welcome Workspace >>> ---------------- >>> Save >>> Save as... >>> Save and quit >>> Quit >>> >>> >>> Note, I inlined the debug menu into System. The reason is that I don't like >>> multiply nested menus and the system menu does not get overly long. Also I >>> deleted "Space left". Maybe other items like "Start stepping again" are >>> also not really useful anymore? Furthermore I moved "Close all debuggers" >>> into the Windows menu. I kept About... in system as I think it has not much >>> to do with Help but more with System. I also changed the labels of some of >>> the items (like Help Browser and ProfStef Tutorial). >>> >>> Does that look reasonable? >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Adrian >>> >>> On Jun 14, 2010, at 20:45 , Stéphane Ducasse wrote: >>> >>>> torsten >>>> >>>> propose a menu redistribution as laurent did so that we arrive to >>>> something better. >>>> I agree that debug could be in another place than in root. >>>> >>>> stef >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Pharo-project mailing list >>>> [email protected] >>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Pharo-project mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list [email protected] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project
