Hi Laurent,

Thanks signing up for this task. If you don't get around to doing it, just let 
us know.

Cheers,
Adrian

On Jun 21, 2010, at 10:10 , laurent laffont wrote:

> On Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 12:29 PM, Adrian Lienhard <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>> Just a meta remark...
>> 
>> In this thread 8 people have sent a total of 30 mails. But in the end
>> nobody volunteers to do the (not very hard) work to make what was discussed
>> actually happen. Was this a bikeshed.com discussion? Maybe not since
>> designing good menus is complex and important. But my point is that we
>> should take care, as a community, to not only invest into discussions but at
>> least as much into *doing*.
>> 
> 
> You're right, but for my part I *hate* saying "I will do" and then don't
> find the courage/motivation/whatever and not doing it (especially when
> something else captures my energy, I'm suspicious of myself :).
> 
> That said I've reached the first step I want on Autotest, so now I can work
> on the menus, I know how it works.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Laurent
> 
> 
> 
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> Adrian
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Jun 16, 2010, at 08:42 , Adrian Lienhard wrote:
>> 
>>> OK, since there seems no opposition lets change it as proposed.
>>> 
>>> Any taker?
>>> 
>>> Adrian
>>> 
>>> On Jun 15, 2010, at 09:17 , Stéphane Ducasse wrote:
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Jun 14, 2010, at 10:07 PM, Adrian Lienhard wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> OK, Torsten has some good points (like, why not doing it right now
>> rather than later?)! I took the proposal of Torsten from an earlier mail and
>> tweaked it a bit. This shows the complete world menu including sub menus:
>>>>> 
>>>>> System Browser
>>>>> Workspace
>>>>> Test Runner
>>>>> Monticello Browser
>>>>> --------------------
>>>>> Tools
>>>>> ... (<-as today)
>>>>> Windows
>>>>> Collapse all windows
>>>>> Expand all windows
>>>>> Close top window    <<<< we could remove that since you can also press
>> the button
>>>>> Close all debuggers
>>>>> Send top window to back
>>>>> Move window onscreen
>>>>> Delete unchanged windows
>>>>> System
>>>>> About...
>>>>> Settings
>>>>> --------------
>>>>> VM statistics
>>>>> Start profiling all processes
>>>>> Start profiling UI
>>>>> --------------
>>>>> Start drawing again
>>>>> Start stepping again
>>>>> --------------
>>>>> Restore display
>>>>> Enable halt inspect once
>>>>> Help
>>>>> Help Browser
>>>>> ProfStef Tutorial
>>>>> Welcome Workspace
>>>>> ----------------
>>>>> Save
>>>>> Save as...
>>>>> Save and quit
>>>>> Quit
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Note, I inlined the debug menu into System. The reason is that I don't
>> like multiply nested menus and the system menu does not get overly long.
>> Also I deleted "Space left". Maybe other items like "Start stepping again"
>> are also not really useful anymore? Furthermore I moved "Close all
>> debuggers" into the Windows menu. I kept About... in system as I think it
>> has not much to do with Help but more with System. I also changed the labels
>> of some of the items (like Help Browser and ProfStef Tutorial).
>>>>> 
>>>>> Does that look reasonable?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> Adrian
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Jun 14, 2010, at 20:45 , Stéphane Ducasse wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> torsten
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> propose a menu redistribution as laurent did so that we arrive to
>> something better.
>>>>>> I agree that debug could be in another place than in root.
>>>>>> 
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