Hi guys,

Commercially speaking I see a need for a better Web Services support in
Squeak/Pharo, here I mean both SOA and REST Web Services.

XML-RPC is closer to SOA Web Services so this project could be changed
to improve current SOAP and add the WSDL support?

We currently have SoapOpera [1] and SoapCore [2] from Masashi Umezawa,
maybe his work can be a good starting point to extend it and make a
really good and useful SOA Web Services implementation in Smalltalk?

I namely use SOA Web Services (SOAP+WSDL) quite frequently on my
commercial projects in VisualWorks. With good tools it is certainly the
easiest way to connect to other systems and to other
languages/technologies.

And remember: SOAP means Simple Object Access Protocol. While that
Simple is nowadays very questionable, that Object Access is certainly
not. I mean, SOAP is a protocol to pass messages between objects in
different OO systems. Smalltak as an OO system therefore needs a good
SOA Web Services support!

[1] http://map.squeak.org/package/d17a284e-6a2d-4fea-b4bc-65c82bc45001
[2] http://map.squeak.org/package/dab9b621-00d2-41c3-966c-458bf62b8008

On 30. 06. 2010 20:53, Stéphane Ducasse wrote:
> Philippe this is good that you reacted. The point of esug is to support 
> actions 
> that will help people so probably XML-RCP is not a really good choice.
> Now what would be good is to have a map of current techno and their support
> for smalltalk. Then act to fill up the gaps.
> 
> Stef
> 
>>
>> It doesn't strike me as a forward looking investment. IMHO XML-RCP is
>> something that will only get used less in the future, not more. The
>> value you get from an XML-RCP implementation will become less and less
>> as fewer services support it.
>>
>> But then again ESUG is free to spend their money on what they seem fit.
>> If they disagree or decide the current use is big enough, I have no
>> problem at all with this.
>>
>> Cheers
>> Philippe


-- 
Janko Mivšek
AIDA/Web
Smalltalk Web Application Server
http://www.aidaweb.si

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