Hi guys, I would prepare a separate Pharo-Cog-Experimental one-clicks for now, to:
- encourage Cog usage and discovering all bugs and side effects, which will: - let the Cog become production ready more quickly, but it: - won't mislead people to consider Cog as production ready, because such unintential misleading can put Cog unfairly in a bad light. Best regards Janko On 29. 07. 2010 10:45, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: > Hi folks. Hope Eliot is reading this thread. > > It is time to think in Pharo 1.2 and we need to discuss if we want to > have CogVM as the standard Pharo VM. > > Most of us have tried it and found it incredible fast. So it would be > very good to take advantage of it. But I think there are a couple of > things to be discussed: > > 1) Cog VM seems to be aimed for x86 and 32 bits. You can read Eliot quotes: > "The Cog VM is a just-in-time compiler that currently supports only x86 > > No effort has been made to maintain 64-bit compatibility. Apologies, > this was unaffordable." > > So...how much important is this for us? do we care? and if we want to do > it, is it "doable" ? is it less doable than the normal squeak VM ? > > I really would like to have 64bits VM + 64bits images in a near > future...but hat's just my thoguhts. > > 2) The status of the external plugins. Are they working with Cog ? Not > only the "core plugings" but FFI, OSProcess (I read some problems with > it), TrueType, etc... > > 3) Is it stable for production use? For example, I read that with > seaside there are some crashes. > > 4) Depends on heroes. I never liked this idea. It has nothing to do with > Eliot. He is very cool and helpful. But I wonder, do we understand the > new VM and the changes? are we able to handle and fix it even without > eliot ? > > 5) Integration to VMMaker. I saw that they started to merge cog > (actually, I think only stack vm?) to the trunk of VMMaker. This is > really good news. I hope everything is there and merged. > > 6) Binaries. It seems the official released didn't come with binaries. > So we should compile it for each OS. > > > Ok..that's all my thoughts. I would really like to have a discussion > here and see what to do.....grrrrrr you are all in holidays, aren't you? > hahah > > cheers > > Mariano > > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project -- Janko Mivšek Svetovalec za informatiko Eranova d.o.o. Ljubljana, Slovenija www.eranova.si tel: 01 514 22 55 faks: 01 514 22 56 gsm: 031 674 565 _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list [email protected] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project
