I also agree with Janko idea. Image required changes where integrated in PharoCore 1.2. We can start soon to build Dev images using that core, and, most importantly, build a one click with Cog.
Now the problem is.. 1) where to get the latest code from both, SVN and VMMaker. 2) Compile and generate binaries for each platform Who can help us with this? The only binary I saw was the one Lukas did for Mac OS but I guess it should be updated with latests fixes? Cheers Mariano On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 3:15 PM, David T. Lewis <[email protected]> wrote: > This is very good advice. > > Dave > > On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 11:15:41AM +0200, Janko Miv??ek wrote: > > Hi guys, > > > > I would prepare a separate Pharo-Cog-Experimental one-clicks for now, to: > > > > - encourage Cog usage and discovering all bugs and side effects, which > > will: > > - let the Cog become production ready more quickly, but it: > > - won't mislead people to consider Cog as production ready, because > > such unintential misleading can put Cog unfairly in a bad light. > > > > Best regards > > Janko > > > > On 29. 07. 2010 10:45, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: > > > Hi folks. Hope Eliot is reading this thread. > > > > > > It is time to think in Pharo 1.2 and we need to discuss if we want to > > > have CogVM as the standard Pharo VM. > > > > > > Most of us have tried it and found it incredible fast. So it would be > > > very good to take advantage of it. But I think there are a couple of > > > things to be discussed: > > > > > > 1) Cog VM seems to be aimed for x86 and 32 bits. You can read Eliot > quotes: > > > "The Cog VM is a just-in-time compiler that currently supports only x86 > > > > > > No effort has been made to maintain 64-bit compatibility. Apologies, > > > this was unaffordable." > > > > > > So...how much important is this for us? do we care? and if we want to > do > > > it, is it "doable" ? is it less doable than the normal squeak VM ? > > > > > > I really would like to have 64bits VM + 64bits images in a near > > > future...but hat's just my thoguhts. > > > > > > 2) The status of the external plugins. Are they working with Cog ? Not > > > only the "core plugings" but FFI, OSProcess (I read some problems with > > > it), TrueType, etc... > > > > > > 3) Is it stable for production use? For example, I read that with > > > seaside there are some crashes. > > > > > > 4) Depends on heroes. I never liked this idea. It has nothing to do > with > > > Eliot. He is very cool and helpful. But I wonder, do we understand the > > > new VM and the changes? are we able to handle and fix it even without > > > eliot ? > > > > > > 5) Integration to VMMaker. I saw that they started to merge cog > > > (actually, I think only stack vm?) to the trunk of VMMaker. This is > > > really good news. I hope everything is there and merged. > > > > > > 6) Binaries. It seems the official released didn't come with binaries. > > > So we should compile it for each OS. > > > > > > > > > Ok..that's all my thoughts. I would really like to have a discussion > > > here and see what to do.....grrrrrr you are all in holidays, aren't > you? > > > hahah > > > > > > cheers > > > > > > Mariano > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Pharo-project mailing list > > > [email protected] > > > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > > -- > > Janko Miv??ek > > Svetovalec za informatiko > > Eranova d.o.o. > > Ljubljana, Slovenija > > www.eranova.si > > tel: 01 514 22 55 > > faks: 01 514 22 56 > > gsm: 031 674 565 > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Pharo-project mailing list > > [email protected] > > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >
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