2010/7/29 Janko Mivšek <[email protected]> > Hi guys, > > I would prepare a separate Pharo-Cog-Experimental one-clicks for now, to: > > - encourage Cog usage and discovering all bugs and side effects, which > will: > - let the Cog become production ready more quickly, but it: > - won't mislead people to consider Cog as production ready, because > such unintential misleading can put Cog unfairly in a bad light. >
that a great approach Janko. thanks, Eliot > > Best regards > Janko > > On 29. 07. 2010 10:45, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: > > Hi folks. Hope Eliot is reading this thread. > > > > It is time to think in Pharo 1.2 and we need to discuss if we want to > > have CogVM as the standard Pharo VM. > > > > Most of us have tried it and found it incredible fast. So it would be > > very good to take advantage of it. But I think there are a couple of > > things to be discussed: > > > > 1) Cog VM seems to be aimed for x86 and 32 bits. You can read Eliot > quotes: > > "The Cog VM is a just-in-time compiler that currently supports only x86 > > > > No effort has been made to maintain 64-bit compatibility. Apologies, > > this was unaffordable." > > > > So...how much important is this for us? do we care? and if we want to do > > it, is it "doable" ? is it less doable than the normal squeak VM ? > > > > I really would like to have 64bits VM + 64bits images in a near > > future...but hat's just my thoguhts. > > > > 2) The status of the external plugins. Are they working with Cog ? Not > > only the "core plugings" but FFI, OSProcess (I read some problems with > > it), TrueType, etc... > > > > 3) Is it stable for production use? For example, I read that with > > seaside there are some crashes. > > > > 4) Depends on heroes. I never liked this idea. It has nothing to do with > > Eliot. He is very cool and helpful. But I wonder, do we understand the > > new VM and the changes? are we able to handle and fix it even without > > eliot ? > > > > 5) Integration to VMMaker. I saw that they started to merge cog > > (actually, I think only stack vm?) to the trunk of VMMaker. This is > > really good news. I hope everything is there and merged. > > > > 6) Binaries. It seems the official released didn't come with binaries. > > So we should compile it for each OS. > > > > > > Ok..that's all my thoughts. I would really like to have a discussion > > here and see what to do.....grrrrrr you are all in holidays, aren't you? > > hahah > > > > cheers > > > > Mariano > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Pharo-project mailing list > > [email protected] > > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > -- > Janko Mivšek > Svetovalec za informatiko > Eranova d.o.o. > Ljubljana, Slovenija > www.eranova.si > tel: 01 514 22 55 > faks: 01 514 22 56 > gsm: 031 674 565 > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >
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