Hi,
I can give a hand in testing on Mac as I am using it everyday.
Cheers,
Doru
On 30 Jul 2010, at 05:26, Serge Stinckwich wrote:
2010/7/29 Mariano Martinez Peck <[email protected]>:
Hi folks. Hope Eliot is reading this thread.
It is time to think in Pharo 1.2 and we need to discuss if we want
to have
CogVM as the standard Pharo VM.
Thank you Mariano this important issue for the future of Pharo.
Most of us have tried it and found it incredible fast. So it would
be very
good to take advantage of it. But I think there are a couple of
things to
be discussed:
1) Cog VM seems to be aimed for x86 and 32 bits. You can read Eliot
quotes:
"The Cog VM is a just-in-time compiler that currently supports only
x86
No effort has been made to maintain 64-bit compatibility.
Apologies, this
was unaffordable."
So...how much important is this for us? do we care? and if we want
to do it,
is it "doable" ? is it less doable than the normal squeak VM ?
I really would like to have 64bits VM + 64bits images in a near
future...but
hat's just my thoguhts.
2) The status of the external plugins. Are they working with Cog ?
Not only
the "core plugings" but FFI, OSProcess (I read some problems with
it),
TrueType, etc...
3) Is it stable for production use? For example, I read that with
seaside
there are some crashes.
For crashed related to socket, i know that Noury and Luc are working
on a new implementation of sockets, so maybe if it is ready it could
be included in 1.2 version.
4) Depends on heroes. I never liked this idea. It has nothing to do
with
Eliot. He is very cool and helpful. But I wonder, do we understand
the new
VM and the changes? are we able to handle and fix it even without
eliot ?
5) Integration to VMMaker. I saw that they started to merge cog
(actually, I
think only stack vm?) to the trunk of VMMaker. This is really good
news. I
hope everything is there and merged.
6) Binaries. It seems the official released didn't come with
binaries. So we
should compile it for each OS.
I think both binaries should be provided for 1.2 and also OneClick
images with standard and Cog VM, in order to maximize
the number of tests for the new VM. If we really want to push this,
someone should take care of all of this.
Regards,
--
Serge Stinckwich
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