Hi, On 13 Jan 2011, at 13:18, Igor Stasenko wrote:
> On 13 January 2011 12:29, Tudor Girba <[email protected]> wrote: >> I tried to avoid a lengthy mail, but now I need to explain. >> >> UI design should be approached with the same rigor as system design. A >> community is better than an individual in producing solutions, but only when >> the effort is in concert under a shared vision. If the arguments are just >> about "I like this better", the process transforms into a design by >> committee which usually leads to poor results. So, let me share my "vision". >> >> The first thing that design should address is functionality (although visual >> appeal has a significant weight, too). In general, when you want to design >> something you should ask yourself why do you need to do that. >> >> The intention of the Glamour-Morphic-Theme package is to offer a look that >> uses a minimum amount of graphical variables while allowing you to focus on >> the main content - which is that thing that you work on, not that thing that >> you use for your work. >> >> I tried to start from zero and add a new variable (e.g., color) only when I >> could not distinguish something. There are still things that are superfluous >> (e.g., the border around all tabs, or the bulky shape of an expander), but I >> did not have enough time and Morphic expertise to do better. >> > > That's why i like your theme. Because it is clean and simple and not > overloaded with tons of eye candy. Yet it is elegant. > >> Now, orange vs blue is actually not just a matter of taste because your >> orange is not the same as my blue. There are two reasons: (1) it is >> stronger, and (2) it appears in more places (e.g., at the bottom of the >> scrollbar). This means that it will compete for my attention with more >> force. This might be your intention, but it is not mine because it takes >> away from my main focus which is the content. > > I don't wanted to analyze why.. but if you want it.. > Because orange for selection color fits much better: exactly because > it should draw an attention, because i need that - i need to see what > item(s) i selected, and orange serves better because it is higher > contrast on gray/white background comparing to pale blue. Ok, we disagree, but that is fine, too :). >> >> Suppose you would make the orange have the same visual weight as the current >> blue, then it would still not be the same because orange does not mean the >> same as blue in the cultural meaning it tends to raise. For example, blue is >> usually perceived as more neutral than other colors, and I want to use blue >> for this reason (and also because it is the color of Moose). > > you lost me here. i never associating colors with cultural meaning. > >> >> So, all in all, I do not want GLMOrangeUITheme in the Glamour-Morphic-Theme >> package :), but I do invite people with a UI design interest to build a >> shared vision that matches the one of the overall Pharo. >> > > Okay.. it can be always putted into separate package. That is what I am saying :). Thanks for understanding. Cheers, Doru >> Doru >> > > > > -- > Best regards, > Igor Stasenko AKA sig. > -- www.tudorgirba.com "Some battles are better lost than fought."
