On 31 August 2011 23:23, Igor Stasenko <[email protected]> wrote: > On 31 August 2011 23:19, Alexandre Bergel <[email protected]> wrote: >>> For development configuration is useless and just time sink. >> >> I strongly disagree. Metacello was sold to please users. Actually, I use it >> for me, the developper. I create a new version at each commit. It works >> wonderfully. >> > > sorry, but if during development you need to do 2 commits of 20 > packages , calculate how much time it would take for you to > manuallly update a configuration for each update. > it is time sink. > > if you do that once per day, its okay.. but for every commit . no. its > is absurd. > unless there is an automated tool which can generate new configuration automatically, hidden in your sleeve .. :)
>> Alexandre >> >> >>> But for release it has completely different purpose: it helps us to >>> identify what exactly and what version of it will be put in final >>> version. And gives a simple and concrete answer how to reproduce it, >>> in case of need. >>> Since we're are talking about release, i don't see how we could do >>> that without configurations. >>> >>> Yes, sure it could be done manually to manifest all packages and their >>> version(s) included into release, but it still means that >>> someone has to do it one way or another. >>> >>> >>> On 31 August 2011 23:03, Stéphane Ducasse <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> Marcus >>>> >>>> We only do what is possible :) >>>> >>>> - for the configurations of let us take what exist. We cannot >>>> control everything. I do not have the time and knowledge for that. >>>> Lukas decided that configurations are evil. Ok perfect now we fix >>>> them when we know what should be loaded. >>>> >>>> - Then for example to integrate the broken highlight I need the >>>> code first. I still do not know which slice to load in 1.3. >>>> Two days ago I spent time on it loading the wrong slice. So I >>>> decided that I will not stress. >>>> >>>> So we will fix that either in 1.3 or in 1.4 as time allows it. >>>> And more more important: no stress we are payed enough to stress and do >>>> stuff that hurts us. >>>> >>>> Stef >>>> >>>>> On Aug 31, 2011, at 8:22 PM, Lukas Renggli wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> The image contains outdated versions of RB and OB that miss some >>>>>> critical fixes. >>>>> >>>>> How can I know? >>>>> >>>>> It is is build using the latest MetaCello config... if the config needs >>>>> to be updated, >>>>> it needs to be updated. It does not happen by itself. >>>>> >>>>>> Also there some proposed fixes don't seem to be >>>>>> included <http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/list?q=milestone%3D1.3> >>>>>> yet? >>>>>> >>>>> No... I have not yet found the energy to do that. >>>>> >>>>> Marcus >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Marcus Denker -- http://marcusdenker.de >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Best regards, >>> Igor Stasenko AKA sig. >>> >> >> -- >> _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: >> Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu >> ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > -- > Best regards, > Igor Stasenko AKA sig. > -- Best regards, Igor Stasenko AKA sig.
