Dale and I worked on the MetacelloBrowser. I believe the UI needs to be polished. Probably having something based on Glamour would cool to have. I worked on Versionner because I just need a commit button.
Cheers, Alexandre On 31 Aug 2011, at 17:57, Igor Stasenko wrote: > is it just me, or there are more people who know nothing about it? > > i know how to do a parallel programs, > but i have no means to know what happens in parallel to my little universe > unless i can read it from some well known source :) > > On 31 August 2011 23:46, Alexandre Bergel <[email protected]> wrote: > :-) > I use Versionner for simple case and the MetacelloBrowser for more > complicated stuff. > Check at the screenshot. You see, there is a commit button :-) It saves all > the dependent packages, create a new version, ask you for the comment, and > save the config. I rarely use the Monticello browser actually. > > <Screen Shot 2011-08-31 at 17.24.53.png> > > Cheers, > Alexandre > > > On 31 Aug 2011, at 17:23, Igor Stasenko wrote: > >> On 31 August 2011 23:19, Alexandre Bergel <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> For development configuration is useless and just time sink. >>> >>> I strongly disagree. Metacello was sold to please users. Actually, I use it >>> for me, the developper. I create a new version at each commit. It works >>> wonderfully. >>> >> >> sorry, but if during development you need to do 2 commits of 20 >> packages , calculate how much time it would take for you to >> manuallly update a configuration for each update. >> it is time sink. >> >> if you do that once per day, its okay.. but for every commit . no. its >> is absurd. >> >>> Alexandre >>> >>> >>>> But for release it has completely different purpose: it helps us to >>>> identify what exactly and what version of it will be put in final >>>> version. And gives a simple and concrete answer how to reproduce it, >>>> in case of need. >>>> Since we're are talking about release, i don't see how we could do >>>> that without configurations. >>>> >>>> Yes, sure it could be done manually to manifest all packages and their >>>> version(s) included into release, but it still means that >>>> someone has to do it one way or another. >>>> >>>> >>>> On 31 August 2011 23:03, Stéphane Ducasse <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>>> Marcus >>>>> >>>>> We only do what is possible :) >>>>> >>>>> - for the configurations of let us take what exist. We cannot >>>>> control everything. I do not have the time and knowledge for that. >>>>> Lukas decided that configurations are evil. Ok perfect now we fix >>>>> them when we know what should be loaded. >>>>> >>>>> - Then for example to integrate the broken highlight I need the >>>>> code first. I still do not know which slice to load in 1.3. >>>>> Two days ago I spent time on it loading the wrong slice. So I >>>>> decided that I will not stress. >>>>> >>>>> So we will fix that either in 1.3 or in 1.4 as time allows it. >>>>> And more more important: no stress we are payed enough to stress and do >>>>> stuff that hurts us. >>>>> >>>>> Stef >>>>> >>>>>> On Aug 31, 2011, at 8:22 PM, Lukas Renggli wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> The image contains outdated versions of RB and OB that miss some >>>>>>> critical fixes. >>>>>> >>>>>> How can I know? >>>>>> >>>>>> It is is build using the latest MetaCello config... if the config needs >>>>>> to be updated, >>>>>> it needs to be updated. It does not happen by itself. >>>>>> >>>>>>> Also there some proposed fixes don't seem to be >>>>>>> included <http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/list?q=milestone%3D1.3> >>>>>>> yet? >>>>>>> >>>>>> No... I have not yet found the energy to do that. >>>>>> >>>>>> Marcus >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Marcus Denker -- http://marcusdenker.de >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Best regards, >>>> Igor Stasenko AKA sig. >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: >>> Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu >>> ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Best regards, >> Igor Stasenko AKA sig. >> > > -- > > _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: > Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu > ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. > > > > > > > > > -- > Best regards, > Igor Stasenko AKA sig. -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.
