Hi Torsten, my theory is simple: people working in Softwaredevelopment-Departments are somehow techies. So if they see pharo in action and have the ability to use it in a way that is uncritical for the business - they would try it out. Of course they can't decide to use pharo/ seaside for the next project (if the main development environment in that enterprise is Java or .NET). But maybe they can decide to use a Ticketing-system for one of their next projects, which is built on pharo. So they can play around with it, try to enhance it, have fun with it, love it. Exactly like the people who have to play around with Trac, adjust some python-code, enhance it (and hate it). I don't think of pharo as the next-big-thing, but if developers start to use it for little things of their daily work, they will use it for real-projects too. Someday.
regards, Stefan Am 9. März 2012 17:11 schrieb Torsten Bergmann <[email protected]>: > Hi Stefan, > > I'm not sure if it is a killer app that is required to get more > visibility for Pharo or a better adoption of Smalltalk. > > We already have nice open-source apps ranging from Seaside, Pier, > Moose, Swiki, ... up to other Smalltalk apps that are sucessfull > also in business life. > > Look at JPMorgans Kapital project done in VW, other big Smalltalk > projects or the Pharo success stories [2] meanwhile known to the world. > Still Smalltalk is very unknown among developers ... > > I agree with Dave Thomas who said that the object abstraction is too > complex for the majority of programmers. [1] > Most people are happy with (boring) CRUD applications and > I doubt a killer app implemented in Smalltalk will change this. > Most of them see no need for switching from Java, C#, ... > > Not that I would not want to see Trac/Bugzilla/... one-click replacements > done in Smalltalk - but building them will eat up our resources to build > something that should be even better than current Smalltalks. > > I doubt that Pharo will become the "next big thing". I'm not > sad about that since most hype technologies will easily fade away > when the next hype comes up. > > Maybe you remember auctomatic.com - these guys have built an app > with Seaside and sold the company for lots of money. So it must > have been a killer app. > > One of them (Patrick) shares some nice thoughts on his > page [3] - if you replace "auctomatic" with Pharo and "ebay" > with one of the mainstream technologies like Java it is an > interesting guide for a future of Pharo too. > Especially regarding internationalization which is I think > an interesting area to get more people into Smalltalk. > > Bye > Torsten > > > [1] http://smalltalk-bob.blogspot.com/2012/03/who-needs-objects.html > [2] http://www.pharo-project.org/about/success-stories > [3] http://patrickcollison.com/blog/2009/10/surprises > > -- > Empfehlen Sie GMX DSL Ihren Freunden und Bekannten und wir > belohnen Sie mit bis zu 50,- Euro! https://freundschaftswerbung.gmx.de >
