2013/1/30 Benjamin <[email protected]>

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> Ben
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> On Jan 30, 2013, at 10:30 AM, jannik laval <[email protected]> wrote:
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> Hi,
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> 2013/1/30 Benjamin <[email protected]>
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>> Ben
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>> On Jan 30, 2013, at 10:03 AM, jannik laval <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
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>> Hi Benjamin,
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>> I am trying to use Nautilus and going to Pharo 2.0 (I am using 20480).
>> I have some remarks about the usability of the tool. I think the idea is
>> cool and I begin to appreciate it.
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>> But, I have some problems:
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>> - When I am on a method and search senders (b,n). If there is only one
>> sender, another browser is opened focusing on the sender of the method. But
>> the method call is not highlighted. When I have to parse long methods, I
>> loose time.
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>> True :)
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>> - About the keyboard shortcuts: please I need the same shortcuts
>> everywhere… Not everywhere because I know it takes time to do that. BUT
>> everywhere in nautilus itself. The shortcuts are not the same in the
>> sourcecode panel (old shortcuts) and in the list of entities (new
>> shortcuts).
>> As a user, I would like to have the possibility to disable the new
>> shortcuts to have the same shortcuts everywhere in my environment.
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>> It's implemented Nautilus side, but KeyBindings still need some love :)
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>> - About the package menu:
>> >there is too much items: 4 items to add package in groups is too much. I
>> would prefer one item (add as group) and a menu More.
>> > Why is there a "Search code" in "rewrite code" item ? The name does not
>> make sense.
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>> Probably comes from OB :)
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> And should be changed.
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>> > Create Slice should be in the DEBUG mode. Which could be disabled in
>> the Settings.
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>> Debug mode ? Why ??
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> Or a different menu that is available for the core team or guys who need
> this feature.
> I do not use it even if I am in a pharo sprint.
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> The browser is by nature a development tool :)
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Don't be stupid. You know what I want to say.


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>> - The "Show instance variables" and "Show class variables" does not show
>> the variables but the accessors to the variables, no ?
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>> Yes, as the other browsers did, but I can change the name ;)
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> Yes please
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>> - Is it possible to have a popup on the icons in Nautilus. There is lots
>> of icons that I don't know what they mean.
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>> There are (or at least should, maybe a bug)
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> There are only on active icons. The others have no information popup.
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>> - It is the same for the color of classes and methods: Why are there
>> methods in gray ? classes in gray ?
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>> Extensions
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> Thank you, but "in the browser" how can I know that ?
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>> - The command "edit a comment", which is a clickable icon, opens a new
>> window. I would prefer that it has the same behavior than the button
>> "Comments": opening the comments in the same browser.
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>> No, thanks to the popup and shortcuts, you can edit in a row a lot of
>> classes very quickly
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> Not agree. We have too much opened window, and when I write a comment, I
> want to write ONE and write it well.
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> Take the first class to comment,
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> start: press space
> type your comment
> save (cmd+s)(it closes the window)
> press arrow down
> goto: start
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> Can't be faster :)
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You are right ! I am just surprised about that.
So this is not an issue :D


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>> - in the lists of the browser, I would like to select multiple packages
>> without using the mouse. Is it possible ? In all the browsers, the shift-up
>> and shift-down can do that.
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>> PluggableListMorph can't do that, but NewList can.
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>> Unfortunately, I think the integration will be in 3.0
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> ARGhhhh
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> If you have time to make it work you are more than welcome
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I have the same problem as you: lake of time !


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>> - When I select multiple packages, the classes of all these packages
>> should appear. Not only the ones of the last selected package.
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>> There is a bug entry and discussion about that. Due to extension, it's
>> quite complicated to due and raises some issues.
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>> - what does the locker means in the source code editor ? I understood
>> that the method cannot be modified… But I can, so I don't understand.
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>> It's a feature not yet really used. You can pin a text panel, and have
>> multiples. We need to polish that as well :)
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> It does not work fine. There are some UI issues (the top of the method is
> hidden because of the new buttons on the bottom of the window). If it is
> not used and polished, please remove it.
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> I will try to make it work, but with the lectures, it's a bit complicated
> :S
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>> - The history navigator is not shared between browsers.
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>> There is a bug entry for this
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>> That is a good beginning I think.
>> I give you my point of view as a user of the browser. This is the main
>> tool I am supposed to use in Pharo and I would like to not be frustrated
>> using it.
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>> You know I love feedback :)
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> Thank you
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>> Do you know what I like more ? Bug entries :P
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> Here, I am a user. I take time to send you a mail, and I don't want to
> take time to open bug entries. You can do it if you think the ideas are
> good. :P
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> I though you was also part of the community :P
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A community is not a bug tracker but also all the communication around.
I just wanted to discuss and share my point of view.

Now, I am not sure it was a good idea.
Be cool, guys !

Jannik


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> Ben
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> Cheer,
> Jannik
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>> Thanks again
>> Ben
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>> My 2 cents,
>> Jannik
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>> --
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>> ~~Dr. Jannik Laval~~
>> École des Mines de Douai
>> Enseignant-chercheur
>> http://www.jannik-laval.eu
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> --
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> ~~Dr. Jannik Laval~~
> École des Mines de Douai
> Enseignant-chercheur
> http://www.jannik-laval.eu
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~~Dr. Jannik Laval~~
École des Mines de Douai
Enseignant-chercheur
http://www.jannik-laval.eu

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