Stef,

where is "the tool"?

Norbert

> Am 23.04.2015 um 08:01 schrieb stepharo <steph...@free.fr>:
> 
> Two things:
> 
> One:
> We paid a guy to work on a tool to help us identifying dependencies, The tool 
> works well is fast.
> if this tool would be in the image, everybody could check that there are bad 
> dependencies in his
> code (and there are many around in nearly anybody's code).
> No we prefer that me, pavel, and guille run it and fight with this instead of 
> making sure that
> when you commit we get some feedback like: "oh strange that this package is 
> bound with this one".
> This tool breaks when we do change in the image and I nicely (stupidly I 
> would say) maintain it.
> 
> Two:
> Our process is not great to manage external packages and we will add more.
> Sure it sounds like the right things to do, especially now.
> 
> So to me it simply means that we are not serious and convinced about 
> modularity.
> 
> But this is great, I'm reconsidering what I will do in Pharo so you give me 
> good indication
> that I should not continue the way I was thinking. And no need to think that 
> I'm emotional
> I'm not. I'm thinking about why hell I'm doing all this.
> 
> Stef
> 
> Le 22/4/15 21:27, Marcus Denker a écrit :
>>> On 22 Apr 2015, at 20:22, stepharo <steph...@free.fr> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Le 22/4/15 13:23, Esteban Lorenzano a écrit :
>>>> this is so good.
>>>> what about integrate it to Pharo?
>>> No. People should start to think modular.
>>> No more external tools loaded by default.
>>> Better invest in "add a startup preference" functionality in the 
>>> configurationBrowser.
>>> 
>>> Why we do not integrate the excellent tool of baptiste that would show to 
>>> people
>>> when they are creating package mess? Because of the same reason.
>>> 
>> But the Pharo that we download should be the Pharo we use.
>> 
>> We tried the other back in Pharo1.0: Do you remember how we fixed with lots
>> care all details, but then, everyone was using a different image, and all the
>> details there where not fixed and all work was done double?
>> 
>> If we do not make the Pharo that is downloaded to be that was is used, we 
>> will have
>> that again.
>> 
>> I don’t want everything in the image, but what everyone is supposed to be 
>> using should
>> be there without needing an additional step.
>> 
>>      Marcus
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
> 
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