Stef, where is "the tool"?
Norbert > Am 23.04.2015 um 08:01 schrieb stepharo <steph...@free.fr>: > > Two things: > > One: > We paid a guy to work on a tool to help us identifying dependencies, The tool > works well is fast. > if this tool would be in the image, everybody could check that there are bad > dependencies in his > code (and there are many around in nearly anybody's code). > No we prefer that me, pavel, and guille run it and fight with this instead of > making sure that > when you commit we get some feedback like: "oh strange that this package is > bound with this one". > This tool breaks when we do change in the image and I nicely (stupidly I > would say) maintain it. > > Two: > Our process is not great to manage external packages and we will add more. > Sure it sounds like the right things to do, especially now. > > So to me it simply means that we are not serious and convinced about > modularity. > > But this is great, I'm reconsidering what I will do in Pharo so you give me > good indication > that I should not continue the way I was thinking. And no need to think that > I'm emotional > I'm not. I'm thinking about why hell I'm doing all this. > > Stef > > Le 22/4/15 21:27, Marcus Denker a écrit : >>> On 22 Apr 2015, at 20:22, stepharo <steph...@free.fr> wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> Le 22/4/15 13:23, Esteban Lorenzano a écrit : >>>> this is so good. >>>> what about integrate it to Pharo? >>> No. People should start to think modular. >>> No more external tools loaded by default. >>> Better invest in "add a startup preference" functionality in the >>> configurationBrowser. >>> >>> Why we do not integrate the excellent tool of baptiste that would show to >>> people >>> when they are creating package mess? Because of the same reason. >>> >> But the Pharo that we download should be the Pharo we use. >> >> We tried the other back in Pharo1.0: Do you remember how we fixed with lots >> care all details, but then, everyone was using a different image, and all the >> details there where not fixed and all work was done double? >> >> If we do not make the Pharo that is downloaded to be that was is used, we >> will have >> that again. >> >> I don’t want everything in the image, but what everyone is supposed to be >> using should >> be there without needing an additional step. >> >> Marcus >> >> >> >> > >