Hi Stef, Well, I'm afraid I'm going to disappoint you. I made exactly 1 tool with Pharo in my previous work place and currently trying to get ready to use Pharo when opportunity comes in my current work place.
That tool I made was a small tool, a custom controller for ASIC testing. It's a GUI to control ASIC, representing register values as what they mean, organizing them in UI layout in a logical manner. A logical abstraction of a hardware implementation, if you will. It saves my test engineer from having to do what he wants to do in hex numbers, from counting bits and from making error. It's a custom tool for each ASIC. Restoring ASIC state by syncing with Pharo image is really pleasant :) I learnt a lot form Pharo. Morph concept where every GUI element is presentable is very helpful. Wondering what the actual value of a register is? Just ask the register instance to display itself and I can monitor it. Many more of course, but I don't want to bore you to death. My previous company has a long history with Smalltalk. I was fortunate to learn about Smalltalk there. They have ASIC design tool written in Smalltalk, still used today. They don't use Smalltalk anymore. After some years, I missed it, found Pharo, and when an opportunity came to solve a problem, I did it with Pharo. My engineer loved it :) On Tue, Oct 11, 2016 at 12:38 PM, stepharo <steph...@free.fr> wrote: > Hi andreas > > are you using Pharo at work :)? > > Can we know more? > > > Stef > > Le 11/10/16 à 17:28, Andreas Sunardi a écrit : > > I confirmed the new version is working just fine. > > If this info is helpful, I'm running this new version on my CentOS 6.5 at > my work. > > On Tue, Oct 11, 2016 at 3:02 AM, Esteban Lorenzano <esteba...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> I made a new version of http://files.pharo.org/platfor >> m/Pharo5.0-linux-oldLibC.zip, based on Yan's VM... They should work >> fine. >> >> Now... I need a CentOS compatible VM :P >> >> Esteban >> >> On 10 Oct 2016, at 08:29, Esteban Lorenzano <esteba...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> >> On 10 Oct 2016, at 05:47, Andreas Sunardi <a.suna...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Hello Stef, >> >> IMHO, since the 'GNU/Linux w. libc < 2.15' download in Pharo download >> webpage is broken anyway, we should repackage that download. Then other >> people using this version doesn't have to follow extra instruction to patch >> it. Having said that, I understand you and the Pharo team may have a reason >> to not hastily repackage that download option. >> >> >> yes, it is :( >> I need to fix that link. >> >> Esteban >> >> >> So, here are the downloads needed: >> 1. 'GNU/Linux w. libc < 2.15' from Pharo download page >> http://pharo.org/gnu-linux-installation >> $ wget http://files.pharo.org/platform/Pharo5.0-linux-oldLibC.zip >> >> 2. Jan Vrany's Pharo 5 VM https://swing.fit.cvut.cz/j >> enkins/job/pharo-vm-spur-swing/. I used the current latest build, which >> is currently build #5, Jan 17, 2016 >> $ wget https://swing.fit.cvut.cz/jenkins/view/All/job/pharo-vm >> -spur-swing/lastSuccessfulBuild/artifact/pharo-vm-spur-swing.zip >> >> 3. Pharo 5 sources file from http://files.pharo.org/sources/ >> $ wget http://files.pharo.org/sources/PharoV50.sources.zip >> >> 4. Latest Pharo 5 image from http://files.pharo.org/image, which is >> currently 50761 >> $ wget http://files.pharo.org/image/50/Pharo-Image-5.0-latest.zip >> >> >> Installation: >> 1. Unzip 'GNU/Linux w. libc < 2.15' >> $ unzip Pharo5.0-linux-oldLibC.zip >> >> 2. Replace VM in bin/ with Jan Vrany's build >> $ cd pharo5.0/bin >> $ unzip ../../pharo-vm-spur-swing.zip >> >> 3. Put Pharo 5 sources file in the VM directory >> $ unzip ../../PharoV50.sources.zip >> >> 4. Replace image and changes file with the latest >> $ cd ../shared >> $ rm Pharo5.0.{image,changes} >> $ unzip ../../Pharo-Image-5.0-latest.zip >> $ mv Pharo-50761.image Pharo5.0.image >> $ mv Pharo-50761.changes Pharo5.0.changes >> >> >> Now, we can run pharo with libc < 2.15 >> $ cd .. >> $ pharo >> >> >> I hope that help! >> -- >> Andreas >> >> On Sat, Oct 8, 2016 at 10:10 AM, stepharo <steph...@free.fr> wrote: >> >>> Hi >>> >>> I would like a list of >>> >>> - links >>> >>> - actions (unix commands) >>> >>> so that we can add it to the web site so that other people using the >>> same version than you >>> >>> can install and run pharo simply. >>> >>> >>> Stef >>> >>> >>> Le 7/10/16 à 19:06, Andreas Sunardi a écrit : >>> >>> Hi Stef, >>> >>> Can you explain a little bit about what this 'How to' is? Just now I'm >>> able to finally run pharo5 on my CentOS with glibc version < 2.15 and I >>> wrote my finding in my other reply. >>> >>> Are you referring to how to put these things together to finally able to >>> run pharo? Or are you referring to my digging through the error? >>> >>> >>> On Thu, Oct 6, 2016 at 11:08 PM, stepharo <steph...@free.fr> wrote: >>> >>>> Hi andreas >>>> >>>> could you write a little how to so that we can put it on the web site? >>>> >>>> Stef >>>> >>>> Le 7/10/16 à 06:20, Andreas Sunardi a écrit : >>>> >>>> Thanks, Bernardo. That fogbugz case is exactly the problem I'm having. >>>> >>>> This VM (pharo-vm-spur-swing.zip) is able to open Pharo 5.0 image from >>>> Pharo download page. This is a good sign. >>>> >>>> Upon opening the image, I am, however, presented immediately with >>>> 'MessageNotUnderstood: receiver of "/" is nil'. It's coming from >>>> SystemSettingsPersistence class >> defaultPreferenceFileReference >>>> >>>> It boils down to >>>> OSEnvironment#getEnv: 'HOME' >>>> >>>> a failure in building an FFI call. The FFI call function signature is >>>> #( String getenv (String string) ) >>>> >>>> The context object built from OSEnvironment#getEnv: gives answer >>>> 'arg1', instead of 'string', to a call to #method#argumentNames. Down the >>>> road, an IRMethod instance is trying to find the index for 'string' and >>>> can't find any, because what is stored is 'arg1'. >>>> >>>> I'm out of my depth at this point, and this is a separate issue than >>>> not being able to start the image. I have to think where I want to go from >>>> here. >>>> >>>> So, thank you for all of you, for the exceedingly quick and friendly >>>> help. >>>> >>>> Cheers! >>>> >>>> On Thu, Oct 6, 2016 at 5:42 PM, Bernardo Ezequiel Contreras < >>>> vonbecm...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hold on, >>>>> >>>>> There's also this issue >>>>> https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/17353/build-spur-vm-for-de >>>>> bian-old-libc >>>>> >>>>> where in one comment jan.vrany recommended his build >>>>> >>>>> https://swing.fit.cvut.cz/jenkins/job/pharo-vm-spur-swing/ >>>>> >>>>> https://swing.fit.cvut.cz/jenkins/view/All/job/pharo-vm-spur >>>>> -swing/lastSuccessfulBuild/artifact/pharo-vm-spur-swing.zip >>>>> >>>>> that i have used in debian wheezy with the old libc for quite a while. >>>>> i don't use it anymore because im in jessie. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, Oct 6, 2016 at 9:13 PM, Andreas Sunardi <a.suna...@gmail.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Thank you for the impressive quick response. Unfortunately, I have >>>>>> older glibc. So now I'm struggling with compiling glibc 2.15 for 32 bit >>>>>> on >>>>>> my 64 bit CentOS 6.5 machine. Not an easy thing to do. >>>>>> >>>>>> I'll try those VMs once I succeed in building this glibc >>>>>> >>>>>> On Thu, Oct 6, 2016 at 12:41 PM, Bernardo Ezequiel Contreras < >>>>>> vonbecm...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> this >>>>>>> http://files.pharo.org/vm/pharo-spur32/linux/latest.zip >>>>>>> >>>>>>> works pretty well in Debian GNU/Linux 8 Jessie >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Thu, Oct 6, 2016 at 4:09 PM, Clément Bera <bera.clem...@gmail.com >>>>>>> > wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Thanks for reporting the problem. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The error means the VM is incompatible with the image. There was a >>>>>>>> change of image format in Pharo 5, so the package has likely an old VM >>>>>>>> while the image has the new format, or the new VM while the image has >>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>> old format. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Someone will look into that problem in the incoming weeks. Most >>>>>>>> Pharo maintainers are on Mac, we noticed recently that other OS were >>>>>>>> not >>>>>>>> maintained carefully enough (We're sorry about that) and we're trying >>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>> solve that problem. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Meantime.... >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Can you try the latest VM from here (latest.zip): >>>>>>>> http://files.pharo.org/vm/pharo-spur32/linux/ >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Or if still failing, the latest VM from here (latest.zip): >>>>>>>> http://files.pharo.org/vm/pharo/linux/ >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> One of these two VMs should work. Please tell me which one worked >>>>>>>> if you try. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Thanks & Regards >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Clement >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Thu, Oct 6, 2016 at 8:44 PM, Bernardo Ezequiel Contreras < >>>>>>>> vonbecm...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> i already submitted a similar issue >>>>>>>>> https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/18221/This-interpreter-ver >>>>>>>>> s-6505-cannot-read-image-file-vers-6521 >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> check it and see if it is the same >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Thu, Oct 6, 2016 at 3:20 PM, Andreas Sunardi < >>>>>>>>> a.suna...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I'm on CentOS 6.5 and I downloaded Pharo 5 for GNU/Linux w. libc >>>>>>>>>> < 2.15 and for CentOS. Both won't start (I have no problem with >>>>>>>>>> Windows >>>>>>>>>> version): >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> $ pharo >>>>>>>>>> This interpreter (vers. 6505) cannot read image file (vers. 6521). >>>>>>>>>> Press CR to quit... >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I'm unable to find report or information about this issue on the >>>>>>>>>> web. I think it was like this ~2 months ago as well. Is this a known >>>>>>>>>> issue? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> First time posting question in this mailing list, so I beg your >>>>>>>>>> pardon if I break any mailing list rule. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>> Andreas S >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> Bernardo E.C. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Sent from a cheap desktop computer in South America. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> Bernardo E.C. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Sent from a cheap desktop computer in South America. >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Bernardo E.C. >>>>> >>>>> Sent from a cheap desktop computer in South America. >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> >> >> > >
