Guys - let’s STOP this and focus on getting the download page changed. A knife fight within our midst is not going to help us make things better.
I’m sure Steph would prefer actions to fix code over in-fighting. The best way to make amends would be a nice code fix for the community. Tim Sent from my iPhone > On 18 Jun 2018, at 19:39, Travis Ayres <tray...@gmail.com> wrote: > > What does not talking like an asshole have to do with being white and male? > > ...seriously? > >> On Mon, Jun 18, 2018, 11:31 AM Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas >> <offray.l...@mutabit.com> wrote: >> >> >>> On 18/06/18 09:47, Herbert Vojčík wrote: >>>>> Do you have enough balls to call out Steph for his obviously wrong >>>>> decision to push Launcher down the users' throats and make him revert to >>>>> working installers / zips? Cause AFAICT there's the bottleneck atm. >>>> >>>> First, it was MY decision. >>> >>> My apologies to blaming Steph. >>> >>>> I’m pushing launcher as the default download for Pharo since year now. >>>> Do I am happy with it not working on windows right now? Of course not. But >>>> pushing it also in windows has already forced us to fix some bugs there >>>> and a new version of the launcher (and a better Pharo on windows) and at >>>> the result will be good. >>>> I was going to suspend the launcher as the default download until a better >>>> version arrived, but I’ve been told that will happen this week, so I will >>>> wait. >>>> >>>> Second, we have a lot of bottlenecks, but is true this is important. >>>> >>>> Third, please restrain your self to talk like that in the future. Is rude >>>> and unnecessary. >>> >>> I won't. Sometimes it seems this kind of talk is needed. Windows launcher >>> was not working for so long but it is still pushed as the default download >>> option, because "higher goals" I presume. If this kind of talk helps to get >>> rid of it until working (or make it finally actually work), it is anything >>> but unnecessary. >> >> I don't see how this "Macho Programmer Culture" mixing genitalia size with >> community behavior and admin choices is necessary. But I see why, for sure, >> non-(white)-males feel so unwelcome in developers communities when some >> members feels such "necessity" of addressing others with such language and >> when pointed to that, just reinforce their choices. >> >> Best, >> >> Offray
