Thanks for the advice, folks, 'tis greatly appreciated. Sounds like I'll be sticking to 4-minute cylinders for a while if reproducers are going for $700!
Another quick Amberola question: did the 50 come with a bigger/better/different reproducer than the 30? I have a video clip of a 50 in use (part of a listing's sales tactic - effective!), and it sounds shockingly good. Cymbal crashes sound about as clean and treble-extended as recordings 50-75 years later. My 'new' Amberola 30 sounds fabulous, but I wouldn't put it in a class with that video clip of the 50. Is it my imagination, or have any of you heard 50's sounding remarkably better than 30's? Thanks again, Robert ----- Original Message ----- From: "john robles" <[email protected]> To: "Antique Phonograph List" <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2005 8:07 AM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Amberola 30 refit to two minute > I once had an S that sounded louder than any O. The larger diaphragm should sound louder than the small one, but the three Os I have had never did. Of course, being pot metal, they could not be rebuilt, and this might have helped. > > Gregory Cline <[email protected]> wrote:My Standard with and O reproducer and Cygnet horn has the BEST sound by > far for 2 minute cylinders....Unfortunately the cost for an O keeps > going through the roof. One just closed on ebay at $700!!!!!! However > another option would be an S, that fits a standard carriage, has the > larger diaphragm, is also a 2/4 minute, and is much more affordable than > the O. > Gregg Cline > > > john robles wrote: > > >It would not be possible, as the gearing is made for 4 minute play only. In the 2/4 machine, there is an added gear cluster that halves the speed of the feed nut, not the speed of the machine. You would need something to increase the speed of the feed nut, which would take some very customized, and I would guess expensive, engineering. Better to invest in a good 2 minute machine, and for playing 2 minute I recommend an Edison Fireside. Any other recommendations?? > >John > > > >Robert Wright wrote: > >I'm a parent of a 16 yr old girl who's never damaged anyone else's stuff in > >her life. So what? If she did, blame us both. I don't buy into that "the > >kids don't know any better" stuff. I certainly knew when I was doing > >something I shouldn't have been as a small child! :-) > > > >How great it would've been to have had a phonograph in my room as a little > >kid, though, instead of only dreaming about them. If I have any more kids, > >I bet I'll put my Amberola 30 in their room as well. > > > >Speaking of said Amberola 30, I want to formally thank this list for putting > >me in contact with Wayne Holznagel, one of the finest individuals I've ever > >had the pleasure to know, though this won't come as news to most of you. I > >finally have my first cylinder player thanks to him, at a beyond-reasonable > >cost, and feel blessed to have made a dear friend in the process. If any of > >you ever have occasion to do business with Wayne, you won't regret it. > >Indeed, it may spoil you. > > > >Also speaking of the Amberola 30, is there any way of modifying one so that > >it can play 2-minute cylinders? Although Wayne sent me a beautiful machine > >in wonderful shape, it was always my intent to use it for recording and > >archiving cylinders, electrically and acoustically. I've already contacted > >Rob Lomas about an electrical pickup, but I'm mainly worried about the > >4-minute feedscrew situation. Any ideas out there? > > > > > >Thanks in advance, > >Robert > > > > > > > > > >>I'm surprised at you gentlemen. Any parents amongst you? > >> > >>Not to brag, but neither of my kids (now ages 6 and 10) have ever > >>broken a record or scratched or crayoned or poked any of my machines, > >>and we're not nazis about enforcement. Both have had operating > >>machines (one a vv-x and one an amberola 30) in their rooms since > >>babyhood. It's just a matter of giving the kids the guidance they > >>need. It doesn't stop with babyhood, either. > >> > >> > > > >_______________________________________________ > >Phono-L mailing list > >[email protected] > > > >Phono-L Archive > >http://www.oldcrank.org/pipermail/phono-l/ > >_______________________________________________ > >Phono-L mailing list > >[email protected] > > > >Phono-L Archive > >http://www.oldcrank.org/pipermail/phono-l/ > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Phono-L mailing list > [email protected] > > Phono-L Archive > http://www.oldcrank.org/pipermail/phono-l/ > > _______________________________________________ > Phono-L mailing list > [email protected] > > Phono-L Archive > http://www.oldcrank.org/pipermail/phono-l/ >
