--- Robert Wright wrote:

> ...I have a favorite Victrola...The soundbox is an
Exhibition No. 2.....No matter what needle I use, no
matter what shape the record is
> in, there is black shellac dust built up on the
> needle after every play, without fail...

Robert, I think you should try another soundbox, or
maybe rebuild your No.2 and adjust it.  

I have reproducers that just "kill" records just like
yours does. Other reproducers I have are very "kind"
to records.  

Believe it or not, the soundbox that I play most of my
everyday 78's on is on a CRAPOPHONE and with a
Crapophone soundbox!  No black shellac dust build-up.

BTW....Merle is not a he, but is a she, and she is the
QUEEN OF LITTLE WONDER RECORDS, and knows more about
LW's than anyone else in the world. <g>

Best regards,
Dennis







> So I have two categories of discs -- one, those that
> are nifty and
> interesting, but not particularly valuable to anyone
> but me, the kind that I
> enjoy listening to though millions of copies were
> pressed and the records
> are virtually worthless -- and two, records that
> would never see a
> phonograph/soundbox/headless nail in a billion
> years, because they CANNOT be
> played back on that equipment without irreparable
> damage.
> 
> I don't particularly feel this way about Diamond
> Disc or cylinder
> phonographs, however, as I've never seen an Edison
> needle hurt an Edison
> record.  The diamonds are ground to exact specs and
> the records (wax
> notwithstanding) are built like Mack trucks.  I'm
> not saying there's no
> damage whatsoever, obviously, but it seems
> negligible from my experience.
> I've never collected black dust from an Edison
> stylus.
> 
> It sounds like Merle isn't interested in permanently
> damaging his Little
> Wonders, and that being the case, I don't suggest
> that he play them back
> with a wind-up phono.  I think that's insane if he
> likes his records.  That
> said, Merle, I think most 78 styli offered by
> cartridge manufacturers are
> 2.7mil and will work great with LW's.  I've used the
> Grado, the Stanton you
> have, and the NS78 that works with the Shure
> V15VxMR, which is what I use
> now.  All these styli have suggested weights of 3 to
> 5 grams, 2 to 10 times
> the amount of weight an LP stylus would need, so I
> think your 2.7mil Stanton
> will give you perfectly lovely results with a little
> extra tracking force.
> 
> My 78rpm deck is an 80's Technics SL1200Mk2 that
> Kevin Barrett
> (www.kabusa.com) modified for me to play at 78rpm. 
> He also installed one of
> his damping fluid troughs, which places a paddle
> that's attached to the
> tonearm into this curved trough of thick fluid that
> limits the amount of
> movement available to the tonearm, stopping it from
> bouncing on warped 78s.
> It also vastly improves the midrange, stereo image
> stability, and tautness
> of bass with LP playback.  It's an awesome mod. 
> Kevin's products are
> top-notch.  I'm excited to get one of his preamps
> with noise reduction and
> correct EQ soon.
> 
> Can we hear from everyone on this 'soundbox/steel
> needle = irreparable
> damage' issue?  I would love to be out-voted and/or
> proven wrong.
> 
> 
> Best to all,
> Robert
> 
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "bob" <[email protected]>
> To: "Antique Phonograph List" <[email protected]>
> Sent: Sunday, March 06, 2005 10:43 AM
> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Styli assistance, please
> 
> 
> > Hi,
> >     Unless your Little Wonder records are near
> mint condition I think this
> > is an exercise in futility.  Most of these small
> records are not in the
> best
> > shape because they were used a lot by children and
> stylus used won't
> matter
> > too much.  I think you Stanton cartridge may not
> have enough tracking
> force
> > to play these very well.  I would use a Victor
> exhibition reproducer with
> > good gaskets and steel needles.  Just change the
> needles frequently.
> > RMV
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Merle Sprinzen" <[email protected]>
> > To: <[email protected]>
> > Sent: Sunday, March 06, 2005 10:34 AM
> > Subject: [Phono-L] Styli assistance, please
> >
> >
> > > I'm trying to sort out my system for playing
> 78s, and have a question
> > > about styli.  To get good playback from Little
> Wonders, an article I
> read
> > > suggested a styli radii of .0028 (that's what it
> said worked best for
> > > Columbias, and so I thought that would apply to
> Little Wonders, too).  I
> > > have a Stanton 500 AL II cartridge that came
> with both a 78 and diamond
> > > stylus, but I can't find the radii figures
> anywhere.  Does anyone know
> > > (1) whether the .0028 recommendation is the best
> for LWs, and (2) what
> > > the radii is for my Stanton 78 stylus?  Thanks
> so much!
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