Thanks Mark. -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Mark S. Chester Sent: Friday, May 21, 2004 1:03 PM To: 'Antique Phonograph List' Subject: RE: [Phono-L] the Herzog cabinet lock
It sounds like a key problem and not a lock problem. Locks are very precise. A close fit is usually not sufficient to throw the bolt completely in either direction, even if the key turns and the bolt moves. It's possible that the key fits enough to free the bolt and move it out, perhaps even all the way or not quite all the way. But if not a precise fit, even though the key may work well enough to pull the bolt back in, it will not be cut properly to retract the bolt all of the way. I have had this happen with several "self-help" locksmith jobs I have done on cabinet locks. Since I now have a professional locksmith as a neighbor, that is no longer the case. He even cut me a key for the original "bit-key" lock (what most folks erroneously call a "skeleton-key" lock) for the front door of my circa 1880s house. Get a proper key cut, and then and only then will the lock work properly. The locksmith can do that in a jiffy with his eyes closed and that is why the job will be a mere $10. Mark -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Carter, Keith Sent: Friday, May 21, 2004 11:30 AM To: phon...@oldcrank. Com ([email protected]) Subject: [Phono-L] the Herzog cabinet lock David, Thanks, I will have to look into the locksmith. I really think it's more of a lock problem. I had cut down some on the edge off the back side of an old barrel key, so it would fit into the hole.last night. It works to lock, but won't unlock. So maybe it's just the lock itself. Thanks, keith _______________________________________________ Phono-l mailing list [email protected] http://t2.cwihosting.com/mailman/listinfo/phono-l_oldcrank.com _______________________________________________ Phono-l mailing list [email protected] http://t2.cwihosting.com/mailman/listinfo/phono-l_oldcrank.com From john9ten Fri May 21 13:57:02 2004 From: john9ten (john robles) Date: Sun Dec 24 13:10:41 2006 Subject: [Phono-L] the Herzog cabinet lock In-Reply-To: <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]> Seems I recall hearing about a collector in the northwest who used to regulary lock his VV-XVI L door. The lock broke while locked, and he pretty much destroyed the front of the lid prying the machine open. A cautionary tale for those who lock their victrolas... "Carter, Keith" <[email protected]> wrote:Thanks Mark. -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Mark S. Chester Sent: Friday, May 21, 2004 1:03 PM To: 'Antique Phonograph List' Subject: RE: [Phono-L] the Herzog cabinet lock It sounds like a key problem and not a lock problem. Locks are very precise. A close fit is usually not sufficient to throw the bolt completely in either direction, even if the key turns and the bolt moves. It's possible that the key fits enough to free the bolt and move it out, perhaps even all the way or not quite all the way. But if not a precise fit, even though the key may work well enough to pull the bolt back in, it will not be cut properly to retract the bolt all of the way. I have had this happen with several "self-help" locksmith jobs I have done on cabinet locks. Since I now have a professional locksmith as a neighbor, that is no longer the case. He even cut me a key for the original "bit-key" lock (what most folks erroneously call a "skeleton-key" lock) for the front door of my circa 1880s house. Get a proper key cut, and then and only then will the lock work properly. The locksmith can do that in a jiffy with his eyes closed and that is why the job will be a mere $10. Mark -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Carter, Keith Sent: Friday, May 21, 2004 11:30 AM To: phon...@oldcrank. Com ([email protected]) Subject: [Phono-L] the Herzog cabinet lock David, Thanks, I will have to look into the locksmith. I really think it's more of a lock problem. I had cut down some on the edge off the back side of an old barrel key, so it would fit into the hole.last night. It works to lock, but won't unlock. So maybe it's just the lock itself. Thanks, keith _______________________________________________ Phono-l mailing list [email protected] http://t2.cwihosting.com/mailman/listinfo/phono-l_oldcrank.com _______________________________________________ Phono-l mailing list [email protected] http://t2.cwihosting.com/mailman/listinfo/phono-l_oldcrank.com _______________________________________________ Phono-l mailing list [email protected] http://t2.cwihosting.com/mailman/listinfo/phono-l_oldcrank.com From bruce78rpm Fri May 21 14:20:22 2004 From: bruce78rpm (bruce78rpm) Date: Sun Dec 24 13:10:41 2006 Subject: [Phono-L] herzog record cabinet References: <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]> I have a full barrel Herzog and a key that fits it. I could send you a scan of what this key looks like if you think it will help you track one down. Just let me know. Bruce ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carter, Keith" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, May 21, 2004 10:17 AM Subject: [Phono-L] herzog record cabinet > Steve, > I tried using several barrel keys I've found around the house, even did some > cutting to make one fit into the hole. I could make it lock but had trouble > trying to unlock it. The lock casing might even be bad. > Let me first look around some flee markets that have lots of barrel keys for > sale. I'm looking for one that has a nice looking top or head to it. I took > the lock casing or housing ( what ever it's called) out of cabinet so I can > take with me to try other keys. > If I can't find any, I give you a holler. > Thanks, > keith > > > _______________________________________________ > Phono-l mailing list > [email protected] > http://t2.cwihosting.com/mailman/listinfo/phono-l_oldcrank.com
