Hi Steve, 
 
I paid one cent for a copy of a photo of Edison with a model T in 1928, the 
shipping was $4.99 and the postage and materials were about $1.  Now that I 
look back this type of selling seems to be a way to avoid paying eBay selling 
fees.  I define excessive shipping when the cost is 3 to 5 times the postage 
and the packing materials and you seem to see more of this these days.  I do 
not mind seeing eBay getting a smaller amount and the seller more and that is 
why eBay has a link to report this so they don't lose money.  One example of 
this excessive charge was a person who charged $20 shipping for just the top of 
a model C reproducer and I think it was parcel post.
 
Your point is totally valid and I never mind paying for time and packing 
materials.  I think the same way:
 
When I buy on ebay at auction (or fixed price) I consider the cost to my  door. 
If the cost delivered is fine, I'm happy. And when I bid, I decide the  total 
cost, deduct whatever the shipping charge is (I ALWAYS ask if it's not  there), 
and that's my top bid. You do that at live auctions, why not on ebay.
 
Steve M



> Okay I'll throw in my 2 cents. > > First, "shipping" is not the same as 
> "postage'. There is the cost of packing > materials. (Have you folks priced 
> packing tape and bubble wrap lately?) > There are the matter of timing. A 
> dealer might charge the postage ad then hold a > bunch of packages before 
> going to the PO.> > Have you been to the POs lately? I know I can wait 20 
> minutes in line once I > get there to mail a package and sometimes I only 
> have one but I try to mail > same day. Of course you wouldn't know which 
> sellers do that if it's your first > purchase.> > And if we are talking 
> excessive, how about "buyers premiums" at auctions. > They charge the seller 
> maybe 25% and the Buyer 20%. For what? Their "overhead".> > When I buy on 
> ebay at auction (or fixed price) I consider the cost to my > door. If the 
> cost delivered is fine, I'm happy. And when I bid, I decide the > total cost, 
> deduct whatever the shipping charge is (I ALWAYS ask if it's not > there), 
> and that's my top bid. You do that at live auctions, why not on ebay.> > And 
> saying "I'll never buy from someone with a shipping charge I consider > 
> excessive" is cutting off yourself from something you might get at a low 
> price.> > Believe me, the word "excessive" should also be reserved for Ebay 
> seller > fees which keep going up. > > Well that's my take on it as both a 
> buyer and seller.> > Steve> > > 
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From: [email protected] (Loran T. Hughes)
Date: Sun Dec 24 13:12:04 2006
Subject: [Phono-L] looking for peter frazier
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> From: "Bob Johnson" <[email protected]>
> Date: November 27, 2006 3:03:58 PM PST
> To: <[email protected]>
> Subject: looking for peter frazier
>
>
> I had posted a list of some phonographs I was going to sell on this  
> list a few months ago and I got an email back from peter frazier on  
> this list.  For some reason I was unable to communicate back with  
> him.  Peter, send me your email address again or call me at the  
> phone number listed on my website www.mrvictor.com   Thanks.  Bob
>

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