Adding to this, I'm not sure about the Art Models having the oxidized 
finish.  The French Gothic No.2 I handled while at Christe's had a very 
unusual "hammered" iron finish reproducer (see Frow) which was obviously 
done specially to match with the wrought iron style fittings on the 
exterior.   George Frow mentioned to me the day he came by to look at the 
above, that he'd always "assumed" they used the standard finishes on the Art 
Models, and was as amazed as I when he saw this unusual one.  Somewhere in 
my files I have a photo of it.

 The XVIII English machine I handled later had a the gilt finish as with the 
more common machines.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2006 4:43 PM
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Question Tiger Stripe DD Reproducer?


>
> In a message dated 4/6/2006 1:19:58 PM Eastern Standard Time,
> [email protected] writes:
>
> Copper  oxidation was available on certain A machines which had certain
> finishes.  For example the A 250 had two colors of motor boards which 
> were
> offered with certain woods and certain metal  finishes.
>
>
> I don't quite follow you here, but it sounds like you've seen a  Diamond 
> Disc
> machine other than the "A/B-150" with metal finished  in oxidized bronze.
> (I'm not including the later oxidized  finishes of the 1920s.)  Is that 
> what you
> meant?  If so, is it certain  that the metal parts were original to the
> cabinet?  The original  announcement and description of the Diamond Disc
> Phonographs in the October 1913  issue of the "Edison Phonograph Monthly" 
> mentioned
> "oxydized bronze" metal parts  for ONLY the "A-150."  Nevertheless, I'd 
> love to
> see an "A-250" (or more  expensive model) with its original oxidized 
> bronze
> parts!
>
> I always presumed that Frow's reference to oxidized bronze and the "A-150"
> was in this context - - NOT as pertaining to the Art Models.  The one or 
> two
> oxidized bronze DD reproducers with cast mounts that I've seen were on 
> early
> "B-150" machines.  I would consider those rare because of the  apparently 
> very
> short production of oxidized bronze parts on the  "B-150."
>
> Bill mentioned that he has never seen a DD reproducer with a built-in 
> volume
> control.  The shaft for this volume control takes the place of the
> positioning pin, has a knob mounted on the end, and rotates to manipulate 
> a felt  disc
> within the reproducer's throat.  It works like a furnace flue.   One of 
> these
> (in gold finish) can be seen on page 86 of "Antique Phonograph  Gadgets,
> Gizmos, and Gimmicks."  As for the oxidized finish on the "A-150"  (of 
> which I'm
> quite fond as you can tell!), a close-up photo can be found on  page 119 
> of
> "Antique Phonograph Accessories & Contraptions."
>
> I'm obliged to you, Steve, for your perspective on why the early built-in
> volume control was discontinued.  It makes perfect sense.  The felt  disc 
> on
> mine had been carefully removed by a previous owner, and I  always 
> wondered why!
>
> Regards,
> George Paul
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