Related to this, does anyone know when the Credenza or 8-30 went to  
the tone arm support bracket that comes up from behind and has the  
pivot pin and set screw at the top?  I realize that this is the style  
most often seen, but I'm sure there were some of these made with the  
type of support that only surrounded the bottom of the gold-plated  
arm base.  It did not suffer from the pot metal issues, especially in  
the upper portion above the arm.

Robert --  I have a tone arm being shipped to me right now, that may  
be the correct one (it's the more commonly used type that has the  
pivot up top).  I don't know yet whether the support bracket is nice  
and sturdy (it's the pot metal variety, although the back bracket  
itself ARE reproduced).  I also have very well preserved, albeit  
bronze finished, Orthophonic sound box.  I don't have it in front of  
me, but my recollection is that it's from a portable.  BUT, it's the  
full-fledged version, not the "bottle cap" version seen on some  
Victor portables.  I can dig this out and test it on a range of  
records to see how clear and full it sounds at different frequency  
ranges and amplitudes.  I'd need to give some thought to a price (and  
may decide not to part with it), as it is as clean and fresh as they  
come, with absolutely zero swelling, not even a hairline surface  
crack, perfect original paint on the back, etc.  Either way, if the  
tone arm turns out to be correct and in good shape, it would be  
reasonable.

Best,
Andy Baron


On Feb 10, 2007, at 8:01 AM, Robert Wright wrote:

> Thanks so much, Bruce.  I wanna say theirs is a 4 door but I'm not  
> certain. I'll ask.  I was planning on going with a rebuilt pot  
> metal, regardless of whether Victor had changed over from the brass  
> ones by 34495 or not; I felt certain either one would sound great,  
> and I assumed pot metal reproducers would be easier to find, being  
> that so many more of them were produced (I'm hoping that means I  
> can find one more quickly, if not more cheaply, since I'm in a bit  
> of a time crunch).
>
> Can anyone tell me how to discern which tonearms are original  
> Credenzas, from all the ones on eBay?  I don't want to end up with  
> one from a portable suitcase model, and I don't always trust  
> sellers to know their wares as well as we all have to.  The one  
> thing I'm most interested in is an easy, trouble-free installation  
> for my friend Tony to tackle, a tonearm/pivot that slides into its  
> place like a glove.  My interest in finding one that's historically  
> accurate has more to do with an easy fit than it does historical  
> accuracy.  I'll start by finding all the Credenzas I can, checking  
> serial numbers if possible, and trying to get a good look at the  
> tonearm assembly and its mount.  But I hope against hope that  
> someone on this list has a spare one to sell!
>
> Thanks again for all the help, Bruce.  I hope to hear from more of  
> you folks soon!
>
>
> Best to all,
> Robert
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "bruce78rpm"  
> <[email protected]>
> To: "Antique Phonograph List" <[email protected]>
> Sent: Saturday, February 10, 2007 6:48 AM
> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] orthophonic/credenza question info update
>
>
>> Hello Robert,
>>
>> Since their Credenza is up in the 35,000 range it is probably a 4  
>> door model, see the link below which is in the 25,000 range is a  
>> four door. Whether or not it would still have the brass reproducer  
>> at this point would be strictly conjecture on my part unless  
>> someone else has accurate information as to the approximate serial  
>> number Victor changed over. Keep in mind that original brass  
>> reproducers can be extremely expensive so you may want to consider  
>> going with a rebuilt pot metal one. I have both types and they  
>> both sound exceptional. I would suspect that one or more of the  
>> suppliers who are also members of this list would contact you if  
>> they have the tone arm and reproducer you need to restore this  
>> Credenza. Best of Luck in your quest.
>>
>> Bruce
>>>>> http://www.lisaandmike.com/Graphics/victorcredenzaopen.jpg  or  
>>>>> this one: http://home.earthlink.net/~bchurt/credenza.jpg.
>
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