I fail to see where the destruction of the AS due to substandard packing has been disputed. I also fail to see what that has to do with PayPal. Insurance claims should've been made with the shipper, no? It's not PayPal's responsibility to fix damage done in shipping. If the item had never been shipped, that'd be one thing, but I'm assuming it was fine when it was purchased, past which point PayPal could rightfully wash their hands of it.
That's why I get all over a seller to find out what they know about packing such items before their incompetency has a chance to come into play. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rich" <[email protected]> To: "Antique Phonograph List" <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2007 3:23 PM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Whaddya think it will Pay Pal? > The first question I have is who exactly negotiated with the shipper, who > I am making the assumption > was UPS? > > > On Wed, 14 Feb 2007 15:24:50 -0500, Ken Danckaert wrote: > >>Since you appear to be such an expertl, I refer you to the pictures of >>the badly demolished Columbia AS. That will show you the Injured >>parties side and the packing of the machine as received. You tell me >>who is "he said" and "she said"! > >>Rich wrote: > >>>I consider these "eBay, PayPal, common carrier, or whoever boned me" >>>stories to be little more than > one >>>sided urban legends and of little merit. Now if I am provided with all >>>of the correspondence from > ALL >>>sides I will consider it. This is no more or less than an other >>>adaptation of the old "he said, she > said". >>>These stories belong on the Art Bell program..... >>> >>> >>>On Wed, 14 Feb 2007 09:57:25 -0500, Ken Danckaert wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>>>Don't rely too much on PayPal. I know of one instance where PayPal did >>>>pay after a lot of work by the injured party, BUT Pay Pal terminated >>>>both the buyer and the seller until they got money back from someone. >>>>They didn't care about the injured party not being responsible for the >>>>problem of destruction during shipping due to poor packing. Somehow >>>>this sounds like ebay! Does anyone have other experience with trying to >>>>get payment out of PayPal? >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>Ken D. >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>Rich wrote: >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>>What you have to remember is that better than 90% of the PayPal users >>>>>never even read the user >>>>>agreement and the rules. And, even worse of the 10% or so who do read >>>>>them probably 50% do > not >>>>>understand them. PayPal provides excellent buyer insurance when using >>>>>PayPal through eBay > and is >>>>>very convenient for the seller. There is no real reason to get bitten >>>>>by a SPAM eBay or PayPal > email. >>>>>If it sounds too good to be true, its a scam. Turn down the greed, >>>>>learn how the computer > functions, >>>>>and you will be OK. >>>>> >>>>>Rich >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>_______________________________________________ >>>>Phono-L mailing list >>>>http://phono-l.oldcrank.org >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>>_______________________________________________ >>>Phono-L mailing list >>>http://phono-l.oldcrank.org >>> >>> > >>_______________________________________________ >>Phono-L mailing list >>http://phono-l.oldcrank.org > > > > _______________________________________________ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org >

