When I was getting info on Fed Ex last summer the very fine print on the agreement said antiques would only be reimbursed up to $100.00. But I could not find out what they defined as an antique ( was it something a hundred years old? There seemed to be no definition to refer to )- when I asked if a phonograph would be insurable I was told yes but then was told not if it is an antique. If you don't ask any questions they will let you pay extra insurance on any item - but it doesn't mean that they will actually pay up on the claim.
Suellen Funk -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Rich Sent: Sunday, February 18, 2007 1:51 PM To: Antique Phonograph List Subject: Re: [Phono-L] shipping phonographs The key word for FedEx and UPS is "rates and tarif". The USPS calls it the "domestic mail manual" On Sun, 18 Feb 2007 10:59:04 -0800, Loran T. Hughes wrote: >Have you tried surfing ups.com and fedex.com for specific info? It's >as bad/worse than finding something on microsoft.com! >;) >Loran >On Feb 18, 2007, at 10:55 AM, Peter Fraser wrote: >> uh, "go down to..."? why not "surf to the sites of..."? >> >> On Feb 18, 2007, at 10:28 AM, Loran T. Hughes wrote: >> >>> Like everything, I imagine that the devil is in the details. >>> Anyone care to volunteer to go down to UPS, FedEx, and USPS to get >>> copies of the insurance agreements? I'll bet you find limits to >>> liability on antiques... but I'm just guessing. >>> >>> Loran >_______________________________________________ >Phono-L mailing list >http://phono-l.oldcrank.org _______________________________________________ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org From [email protected] Sun Feb 18 14:55:06 2007 From: [email protected] (Barry Kasindorf) Date: Sun Feb 18 15:06:43 2007 Subject: [Phono-L] items for sale In-Reply-To: <[email protected]> References: <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]> I would love an Idealia, can't afford it yet (let me see those lottery tickets I bought...). Still interested in the Par-o-ket. -Barry Bob Johnson wrote: > OK folks.after 25+ years of collecting, I am starting to sell a few of our > phonographs..Here are some that I will post on ebay if no one wants them on > this list: Columbia Grand in Circassian Walnut, $7,500, Columbia Symphony > Grand, Restored (looks like upright piano) $8,500, Columbia "School" model, > restored with wheels, $2,000, Edison Idelia, bedplate restored, S.N. 65841, > mahogany cygnet horn, excellent reproduction lid, shaver, etc. $25,000, > Victrola model XX with gold gilding, 18 of these are known to exist, S.N. > 8425, $12,000, Flat Top VTLA S.N. 538, $6000, Flat Top VTLA S.N. 902, > $5,500. Others in our collection might be available. Go to our website and > check out the 250+ phonographs. www.mrvictor.com <http://www.mrvictor.com/> > Email me if you have an interest. [email protected] Thanks. Bob > > _______________________________________________ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org From [email protected] Sun Feb 18 15:56:25 2007 From: [email protected] (Rich) Date: Sun Feb 18 15:56:45 2007 Subject: [Phono-L] shipping phonographs In-Reply-To: <000601c753a8$74208d50$6b01a...@your4dacd0ea75> Message-ID: <[email protected]> This is from the latest, greatest, up to date FedEx ground tariff...... It is not hard to find. As i have said before, if has a value and you care about it then ship it REGISTERED mail. If your buyer can not afford the registered mail then find another buyer. FedEx ground including home delivery will not cover the items listed. You can buy insurance from outside agencies, bring steel engravings of Ben franklin, several. Declared Value and Limits of Liability (Not Insurance Coverage) A. FedEx Ground liability with regard to any package is limited to the sum of $100 unless a higher value is declared at time of tender and a greater charge paid as provided in the FedEx Service Guide or FedEx Retail Counter Rates Book. B. The declared value of any package represents our maximum liability in connection with a package, including, but not limited to, any loss, damage, delay, misdelivery, nondelivery, misinformation, any failure to provide information, or misdelivery of information. Exposure to and risk of any loss in excess of the declared value is either assumed by the shipper or transferred by the shipper to an insurance carrier through the purchase of an insurance policy. The shipper should contact an insurance agent or broker if insurance coverage is desired. FEDEX GROUND DOES NOT PROVIDE INSURANCE COVERAGE OF ANY KIND. C. In cases where the shipper declares or agrees in writing that the property being shipped is released to a value exceeding $100 per package or article not enclosed in a package, an additional charge for each $100 or fraction thereof of valuation in excess of the $100 valuation will be assessed to which the base rate applies, up to a maximum declared value of $50,000 per package. D. Packages containing all or part of the following items are limited to a maximum declared value of $100: 1. Artwork, including any work created or developed by the application of skill, taste or creative talent for sale, display or collection. This includes, but is not limited to, items (and their parts) such as paintings, drawings, vases, tapestries, limitededition prints, fine art, statuary, sculpture and collectors items. 2. Film, photographic images (including photographic negatives), photographic chromes and photographic slides. 3. Any commodity that by its inherent nature is particularly susceptible to damage or the market value of which is particularly variable or difficult to ascertain. 4. Antiques, or any commodity that exhibits the style or fashion of a past era and whose history, age or rarity contributes to its value. These items include, but are not limited to, furniture, tableware, glassware, and collectors items such as sports cards, souvenirs and memorabilia. (Collectors coins and stamps may not be shipped. See the Prohibited Items section.) 5. Glassware, including, but not limited to, signs, mirrors, ceramics, porcelains, china, crystal, glass, framed glass and any other commodity with similarly fragile qualities. 6. Plasma screens. 7. Jewelry, including, but not limited to, costume jewelry, watches and their parts, mount gems or stones (precious or semiprecious), industrial diamonds, and jewelry made of precious metal. 8. Furs, including, but not limited to, fur clothing, fur-trimmed clothing and fur pelts. 9. Precious metals, including, but not limited to, gold and silver bullion or dust, precipitates or platinum (except as an integral part of electronic machinery). 10. Stocks, bonds, cash letters or cash equivalents, including, but not limited to, food stamps, postage stamps (not collectible), travelers checks, lottery tickets, money orders, gift cards and gift certificates, prepaid calling cards (excluding those that require a code for activation), bond coupons, and bearer bonds. 11. Guitars and other musical instruments that are more than 20 years old, and customized or personalized musical instruments. E. Our liability for loss or damage to used electronic or computer equipment shall be limited to $100, unless a higher value is declared on the FedEx Ground Pick-Up Record and the applicable charges are paid. In those instances where the shipper declares a value in excess of $100, our liability shall be determined by the most recent edition of the Orion Blue Book series applicable to the specific item lost or damaged or the declared value, whichever is lower, but in no event will liability exceed the declared value. F. ANY EFFORT TO DECLARE A VALUE IN EXCESS OF THE MAXIMUMS ALLOWED IN THE FEDEX SERVICE GUIDE IS NULL AND VOID. OUR ACCEPTANCE FOR CARRIAGE OF ANY PACKAGE BEARING A DECLARED VALUE IN EXCESS OF THE ALLOWED MAXIMUMS DOES NOT CONSTITUTE A WAIVER OF ANY PROVISION OF THE FEDEX SERVICE GUIDE AS TO SUCH PACKAGE. G. REGARDLESS OF THE DECLARED VALUE OF A PACKAGE, OUR LIABILITY FOR LOSS, DAMAGE, DELAY, MISDELIVERY, NONDELIVERY, MISINFORMATION, ANY FAILURE TO PROVIDE INFORMATION, OR MISDELIVERY OF INFORMATION, WILL NOT EXCEED ITS REPAIR COST, ITS DEPRECIATED VALUE OR ITS REPLACEMENT COST, WHICHEVER IS LESS. On Sun, 18 Feb 2007 16:02:16 -0600, michael funk wrote: >When I was getting info on Fed Ex last summer the very fine print on the >agreement said antiques would only be reimbursed up to $100.00. But I could >not find out what they defined as an antique ( was it something a hundred >years old? There seemed to be no definition to refer to )- when I asked if a >phonograph would be insurable I was told yes but then was told not if it is >an antique. If you don't ask any questions they will let you pay extra >insurance on any item - but it doesn't mean that they will actually pay up >on the claim. >Suellen Funk >-----Original Message----- >From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On >Behalf Of Rich >Sent: Sunday, February 18, 2007 1:51 PM >To: Antique Phonograph List >Subject: Re: [Phono-L] shipping phonographs >The key word for FedEx and UPS is "rates and tarif". The USPS calls it the >"domestic mail manual" >On Sun, 18 Feb 2007 10:59:04 -0800, Loran T. Hughes wrote: >>Have you tried surfing ups.com and fedex.com for specific info? It's >>as bad/worse than finding something on microsoft.com! >>;) >>Loran >>On Feb 18, 2007, at 10:55 AM, Peter Fraser wrote: >>> uh, "go down to..."? why not "surf to the sites of..."? >>> >>> On Feb 18, 2007, at 10:28 AM, Loran T. Hughes wrote: >>> >>>> Like everything, I imagine that the devil is in the details. >>>> Anyone care to volunteer to go down to UPS, FedEx, and USPS to get >>>> copies of the insurance agreements? I'll bet you find limits to >>>> liability on antiques... but I'm just guessing. >>>> >>>> Loran >>_______________________________________________ >>Phono-L mailing list >>http://phono-l.oldcrank.org >_______________________________________________ >Phono-L mailing list >http://phono-l.oldcrank.org >_______________________________________________ >Phono-L mailing list >http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
