You are quite correct, if your part has been "cleaned" one to many times with "hand cleaner" or other mystery products then seriously consider having it Farmerized. The cost is quite low for the results you will achieve.
On Fri, 22 Jun 2007 17:39:59 -0400, gregory caringi wrote: >A couple of years ago, I went through this same questioning process for my >Victor R and got the same responses. Maybe my R was too far gone, but none >of the suggestions really worked. I turned to Steve Farmer for help. Steve >is a great guy and a true craftsman when it comes to restorations. Many of >the finest Victor & Edison machines with oxidized copper or bronze finishes >were "Farmerized." Check out: >http://mysite.verizon.net/vze8loo1/index.html >If a simple cleaning is not going to work, then consider contacting Steve >Farmer. He is the best. I'm not sure if this is his current e-mail >address. >[email protected] >Best of luck with the project. >Greg Caringi >>From: "Ron L" <[email protected]> >>Reply-To: Antique Phonograph List <[email protected]> >>To: "'Antique Phonograph List'" <[email protected]> >>Subject: RE: [Phono-L] Victor P bracket >>Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2007 15:09:06 -0400 >> >>My cleaner of choice for shellac is mechanic's waterless hand cleaner, >>without pumice. It does not dull or soften the shellac but it does remove >>oils, greases and old wax. >> >>Ron L >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On >>Behalf Of Rich >>Sent: Friday, June 22, 2007 2:54 PM >>To: Antique Phonograph List >>Subject: RE: [Phono-L] Victor P bracket >> >>The best bet is Murphy's Oil Soap. Mix with a little water and whip up a >>lather. It might dull the >>shellac and if it does paste wax will fix it. It will take off the >>oxidized >>oil, coal dust, wood ash, and >>general dirt. It requires patience. >> >>ANY product that is listed as either a polish or body scrub or cleaner is >>an >>ABRASIVE and will cut >>through the shellac like a knife. The chemical carriers in these products >>may also strip the shellac. >>The copper plate is very thin and that is what makes it fragile. >> >>Some of these oxidized fishes are coated with real violin varnish which is >>much tougher than plain >>shellac. The color of the final product was controlled by what was used to >>over coat it. >> >> >>On Fri, 22 Jun 2007 14:10:37 -0400, Steven Medved wrote: >> >> >Hi Loran,Would a gently cleaner such as Maguires body scrub clean the >>crud >>off of the shellac? A lot >>of houses were heated with coal and or wood and this leaves things very >>dirty. Patina is good, dirt is >>irritating, but sometimes it is best to leave well enough alone.The >>oxidized >>finish is very delicate, >>when working with Edison oxidized reproducers I only remove dust with a >>soft >>tissue. I would think >>that the shellac could be removed and a new finish installed, but when >>dealing such an expensive >>item you would want an expert to do it.Steve> Other than gently wiping with >>a soft (microfiber) cloth to >>knock the > dust off, I'd leave well enough alone. I'm a believer that >>patina > shows the piece has >>lived a nice, long life.> > Loran> > On Jun 21, 2007, at 9:49 AM, Dan Kj >>wrote:> > > I knew someone >>who had the same finish on all the door hardware in > > his house> > .... >>he removed every piece & >>got them "all clean again" with some > > kind of> > industrial polishing >>compound. I couldn't tell if he >>was > > disappointed when I> > told him the pieces were SUPPOSED to have >>spots of different- > > >>colored metal.> > ack.> >> >> >> > ----- Original Message -----> > From: >>"David Dazer" >><[email protected]>> > To: "Antique Phonograph List" >><[email protected]>> > Sent: Thursday, >>June 21, 2007 9:10 AM> > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Victor P bracket> >> >> > I >>had good luck cleaning >>mine with 0000 steel wool and some > > waterless hand> > cleaner that >>mechanics use. Go easy >>with it or you might end up > > stripping the> > whole thing off. When >>you >>see some of the copper >>coming back, quit.> > Dave> >> > [email protected] wrote:> >> > I have >>an >>oxidized Victor P front >>mount support brack that is very > > dark. How> > could I bring the >>support >>bracket back to life so it >>will show the > > oxidized> > finish? Do I remove the old laquer/shellac >>finish and then > > >>relacquer? If so what> > type of finish remover would you recommend? >>Thanks!> >> > >>_______________________________________________> > Phono-L mailing list> > >>http://phono- >>l.oldcrank.org> >> > _______________________________________________> >>Phono-L mailing list> >>http://phono-l.oldcrank.org_______________________________________________ >> >Phono-L mailing list >> >http://phono-l.oldcrank.org >> >> >> >> >>_______________________________________________ >>Phono-L mailing list >>http://phono-l.oldcrank.org >> >>_______________________________________________ >>Phono-L mailing list >>http://phono-l.oldcrank.org >_______________________________________________ >Phono-L mailing list >http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
