That's one opinion of course.  You did get the horn at a good price ($695) 
which is well below what better condition horns are going for.  Even if you 
spend $400 to get it repaired properly, which you will need to do, you still 
will not have too bad of a deal.  His description is incorrect and 
misleading, as Walt says, but he does say in addition "Also a few seams 
reglued" which is correct.  Almost all wood horns on eBay have defects or 
damage of some kind, and they seem to be going for well over $1,000 anyway. 
Find out what an expert will charge to do the repairs before sending it 
back.  That's my opinion.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "john robles" <[email protected]>
To: "Antique Phonograph List" <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2007 6:05 PM
Subject: RE: [Phono-L] Victor Smooth oak horn question - sort of urgent


> Good advice, Walt, and I think I will follow it!
>  John
>
> Walt <[email protected]> wrote:
>  Hi John,
>
> I looked at your set of pictures and compared them to those on the eBay
> listing along with the description. He describes it in the eBay auction as
> having "TINY TINY REPAIRS WHICH ARE NOT EASILY VISIBLE WITH THE NAKED EYE"
> (emphasis: his). But your pictures tell a different and true story. If he
> had left the text as saying merely "tiny tiny repairs" I don't think you
> could really complain because subjective language is a tough thing to nail
> down, but he states definitively that the repairs "are not easily visible
> with the naked eye". Maybe he is going blind - I don't know. But, my eyes
> are pretty naked and those gaping wounds in that horn are egregious. If he
> would just have dropped the word "NOT" in the sentence, it would be
> accurate.
>
> That horn needs at least $400 in repairs and that assumes that the joints
> that were botched would easily come apart (and I suspect from the pictures
> that they might just jump at the opportunity). I'd pay about $300 to $350
> for a horn that was damaged like that only because I can do the repairs
> correctly and could probably turn it around for a decent profit.
>
> If I were in your boat, I think I would send it back...Even if the guy 
> gave
> you a $300 refund or something on that order, you would still need to have
> it repaired the right way.
>
> Walt
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] 
> On
> Behalf Of john robles
> Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2007 4:32 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: [Phono-L] Victor Smooth oak horn question - sort of urgent
>
> Hi All
> This is such a great forum, and there's so much knowledge here...that
> Edison Wrench discussion was really lively!
> This time it is simpler. I bought an oak horn from eBay, from a guy with
> 100% positive feedback, largely on phonograph items, and a 7 day return
> policy which I am afraid I may have to use. I received the horn today, but
> in spite of his saying there were a few minor repairs virtually invisible 
> to
> the eye, it seems to me there are many major repairs totally visibile.
> Problem is they all look old and the color match is good. But the patterns
> of the angles at which the wood comes together don't make sense to me. 
> Check
> the pics at this link and tell me if I should send it back right away!!
> http://s197.photobucket.com/albums/aa39/john9ten/Oak%20Horn/
> Thanks
> John
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