Up until the mid 50s ed pigments and dyes were not color fast.  Exposure to UV 
light, sunlight, 
resulted in fading to an off white / yellow.  This happened in a very short 
time period.  Red aniline 
dye will fade and this is probably what the original was.  Keep it out of the 
sun and it will survive fine.


On Tue, 4 Sep 2007 11:58:32 -0400, Ron L wrote:

>More likely it is a UV issue, rather than exposure to air.

>Ron L

>-----Original Message-----
>From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On
>Behalf Of [email protected]
>Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2007 11:06 AM
>To: Antique Phonograph List
>Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Mystery

>I don't think the maroon or red accent used on Vic O horns was paint, but 
>rather some type of dye color which readily fades possibly over time when 
>exposed to the air.  I have a friend with a beautiful Vic O, nice original 
>paint on horn, but missing the maroon trim also.  Perhaps it's maroon under 
>the elbow because that part was protected from the air.  Just a guess.
>Ray

>----- Original Message ----- 
>From: "DeeDee Blais" <[email protected]>
>To: <[email protected]>
>Sent: Monday, September 03, 2007 9:25 PM
>Subject: [Phono-L] Mystery


>>I bought a Vic O from long time collector and dear
>> friend, John Davis, a couple of months ago.  John
>> purchased the machine about fifteen years ago from an
>> elderly gentleman that remembered his parents bringing
>> it home as a new machine.  When John offered it to me,
>> I gave it a quick examination and realized that I was
>> looking at a superb example of a Vic O so I bought it.
>> I did notice that there was absolutely no indication
>> or traces of the maroon accent that is commonly found
>> on Vic O horns.  I assumed that some amber Vic O horns
>> were not accented with the maroon trim.  I didn't give
>> it much more thought until I recently removed the
>> black painted elbow to wax the horn and it's maroon
>> under the elbow!  Any thoughts?  I thought that
>> perhaps the maroon accent was removed from a prior
>> waxing or cleaning but you would expect to find maroon
>> coloration in the seams of the horn. I found no old
>> wax or any trace of maroon paint in the seams.  Next,
>> I wondered if sunlight obliterated a possible light
>> coat of maroon paint.  If that were true, I expected
>> to see traces of paint at least in the underside seams
>> but once again, nothing.  Next, I wondered if a
>> solvent was used to remove the maroon paint but the
>> original decals are in good shape and have not
>> suffered from something strong enough to remove paint.
>> Why would there be maroon paint under the elbow and
>> nowhere else?  What am I missing?  Any suggestions
>> would be appreciated.  Thanks, Jerry Blais
>>
>>
>>
>>
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