I believe some Lamberts have a liner. I have three black Lamberts. One says Edison Bell Indestructible on the bottom, one is and IPLS French lesson, the third is in a red and black box that says The New Lambert and it has a liner. It is 5077 Fol the Rol Lol by H Bluff and has what appears to be a hard plastic liner. All have raised letters. I have an Indestructible with the metal bands, 653 that also has raised letters. Even after all these years I have not memorized all the different cylinder companies. Steve
> > I'm still reading online articles. Lambert was put out of business after > > numerous infringement lawsuits by Edison. It's said that when Lambert > > finally folded (records produced 1901-1905), TAE got the patents to > > Lamberts' celluloid records. > > However, he didn't introduce the celluloid > > until 1912. This suggests to me that these "other" companies who made > > celluloid cylinders kind of snuck in (1908-1912 generally) while all these > > lawsuits were going on, and before TAE put out his first EBA. Does this > > sound about right? > > And how did Indestructible manage to keep making > > records until 1922, without TAE eating them up too? :) > > PS: I read that > > Lamberts were pure celluloid, no liner or metal frame. So that question is > > answered.> From [email protected] Sun Mar 23 06:48:00 2008 From: [email protected] ([email protected]) Date: Sun Mar 23 06:48:15 2008 Subject: [Phono-L] Cylinders not Edison, but whose?/ Message-ID: <[email protected]> In a message dated 3/22/2008 11:41:22 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: I believe some Lamberts have a liner. I have three black Lamberts. One says Edison Bell Indestructible on the bottom, one is and IPLS French lesson, the third is in a red and black box that says The New Lambert and it has a liner. It is 5077 Fol the Rol Lol by H Bluff and has what appears to be a hard plastic liner. All have raised letters. I have an Indestructible with the metal bands, 653 that also has raised etters. ================ The Lamberts that have a ('cardboard') "liner" are from England. Their boxes were the red and black design with elephant. American Lamberts (no matter what color) are truly hollow, except for the last (1905) with their plaster interiors. The raised-letter rims of Albany Inds are the very first from ca ("pre") Nov 1907. They mimic that style from the last US Lamberts, although the "direction/orientation" of rim-imprinting is different. The interior metals rings were patented by Philpot & Matthews. Allen **************Create a Home Theater Like the Pros. Watch the video on AOL Home. (http://home.aol.com/diy/home-improvement-eric-stromer?video=15?ncid=aolhom00030000000001) From [email protected] Sun Mar 23 09:13:17 2008 From: [email protected] (BruceY) Date: Sun Mar 23 09:18:52 2008 Subject: [Phono-L] Columbia Long Throat Reproducer Message-ID: <000a01c88d00$cffadda0$6401a...@user52c8f93503> I recently acquiried a Columbia AH Graphophone. The reproducer is a long throat and the printing under the Micah, merely says Patented Nov. 18, 1902, other Patents pending, there is also a number on the back 43129 on the back and, It has a thumb screw, rather then a "clamp" style for the needle. Is this an early analyzing reproducer, or do I have something else here? Bruce From [email protected] Sun Mar 23 10:09:11 2008 From: [email protected] (Jeffry Young, D.O.) Date: Sun Mar 23 10:10:30 2008 Subject: [Phono-L] Columbia Long Throat Reproducer In-Reply-To: <000a01c88d00$cffadda0$6401a...@user52c8f93503> References: <000a01c88d00$cffadda0$6401a...@user52c8f93503> Message-ID: <[email protected]> I had a very early AH, and the long throat repoducer was unmarked, almost the size and shape of a Victor Concert reproducer. The case however, was not knurled like the Victor. This may actually be the earlier style of the Columbia long throat. A picture would be helpful. Jeff Wisconsin -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of BruceY Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2008 11:13 AM To: [email protected] Cc: Antique Phonograph List Subject: [Phono-L] Columbia Long Throat Reproducer I recently acquiried a Columbia AH Graphophone. The reproducer is a long throat and the printing under the Micah, merely says Patented Nov. 18, 1902, other Patents pending, there is also a number on the back 43129 on the back and, It has a thumb screw, rather then a "clamp" style for the needle. Is this an early analyzing reproducer, or do I have something else here? Bruce _______________________________________________ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org From [email protected] Sun Mar 23 10:18:09 2008 From: [email protected] (Ron L'Herault) Date: Sun Mar 23 10:30:03 2008 Subject: [Phono-L] Columbia Long Throat Reproducer In-Reply-To: <000a01c88d00$cffadda0$6401a...@user52c8f93503> References: <000a01c88d00$cffadda0$6401a...@user52c8f93503> Message-ID: <001001c88d09$de59ac60$2f01a...@ronlherault> I can't comment about the printing behind the diaphragm but Baumbach notes in his Columbia Phonograph Companion II that the earliest versions of the Analyzing reproducer did have a thumb screw rather than the spring clamp. Ron L -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of BruceY Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2008 12:13 PM To: [email protected] Cc: Antique Phonograph List Subject: [Phono-L] Columbia Long Throat Reproducer I recently acquiried a Columbia AH Graphophone. The reproducer is a long throat and the printing under the Micah, merely says Patented Nov. 18, 1902, other Patents pending, there is also a number on the back 43129 on the back and, It has a thumb screw, rather then a "clamp" style for the needle. Is this an early analyzing reproducer, or do I have something else here? Bruce _______________________________________________ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
