Thanks, Albert. I have one of those amplifiers, and I plan on re-capping it. I worked in a radio store when I was a kid, and they had a record counter. The audition amplifier was one of that model and, as you said, it sounded good. Speaking in general terms, frequency response in Juke boxes was strongly peaked in the low end. The customers loved it, and I'm sure that the restaurant owners had the treble turned all the way to full cut. Anyway, that amp will probably sound good with a preamp, such as a Fisher 80 nseries feeding it. I have a feeling that it's better than commonly thought. It's all about the transformers in it.
Some time, immediately after the war, the Harmonicats did "Peg Of My Heart" on the VitaCoustic label. The record began with four notes, then a deep bass string. Whatever the jukebox in that place was, that bass note almost knocked stuff off the walls. It was in a neighborhood soda shop where us kids congregated. I played that selection lots of times. I do have the disc somewhere, and if I can find it, I'd like to play it on my E-V Patricians some time. It'll probably crack plaster! > [Original Message] > From: Albert <[email protected]> > To: Antique Phonograph List <[email protected]> > Date: 3/26/2008 1:24:49 PM > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Wurlitzer P-12 > > No actually most WurliTzer amps after 1937 are painted red with the > exception of the W-800 which was gold and the counter models which also were > gold. Yes the P12 and the 412 used the gold amps with the 45 tubes. They > really sound good considering the technology at the time. I had Jukebox > Friday night restore the amp on my 412 and it is awsome. Funny you > mentioned I had a mills for many years, I just loved watching the ferris > wheel mech. I did however install an Astatic 51-2 cartridge and removed the > weight from the head. It didnt look as good, but at least I was able to > play my Rhino records (reproduction 78's) > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Douglas Houston" <[email protected]> > To: "Antique Phonograph List" <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2008 7:13 AM > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Wurlitzer P-12 > > > > Albert; > > > > Could you tell me which Wurlitzer box used the amplifier that had a 45 > > driving puish-pull 45's power amps....? The chassis was painted gold (as > > probably all Wurlitzers were). > > > > I was was amused at your description of "going through grooves like a > > plow". When I was a kid, one of my friends' family had a Mills DoReMi in > > their dining room. Rather unconventional place for it, but that's where it > > was. Now, talk about a record plow! The player had a Webster-Racine > > horseshoe magnetic pickup and the stylus pressure must have weighed in at > > pounds. Sure as shootin', I'd never have put any of my records on that > > thing. Lord, what a shellac grinder that thing was! > > > > But it had a really neat amplifier. Push-Pull 2A3's. > > > > > >> [Original Message] > >> From: Albert <[email protected]> > >> To: Antique Phonograph List <[email protected]> > >> Date: 3/25/2008 10:32:45 PM > >> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Wurlitzer P-12 > >> > >> The P-12 is a great early Jukebox. The only thing you will need to do is > >> lighten the tone arm and install a modern cartridge. This will enable > >> you > >> play your 78s without going through the grooves like a plow. If it has > >> the > >> original amplifier you will find it has a very smooth tone with great > >> fidelity and volume. Subscribe to Always Jukin' There are hundreds of > >> dealers and jukebox enthusiasts out there. It is my passion. I have 13 > >> pre > >> war Wurlitzers and well as Seeburgs and Rockolas. My best source for > >> Parts > >> is "Musical fun for everyone" Bill Butterfield in Napa California. Al > >> Menashe > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: "Ken and Brenda Brekke" <[email protected]> > >> To: "'Antique Phonograph List'" <[email protected]> > >> Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2008 7:01 PM > >> Subject: [Phono-L] Wurlitzer P-12 > >> > >> > >> >I recently was able to purchase a 1934 Wurlitzer P-12 jukebox. Can > >> >anyone > >> > on this list refer me to where I can purchase any service manuals or > >> > parts? > >> > Thanks in advance, Ken B. > >> > > >> > _______________________________________________ > >> > Phono-L mailing list > >> > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org > >> > > >> > > >> > -- > >> > Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. > >> > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > >> > Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.11.19/955 - Release Date: > >> > 8/15/2007 > >> > 4:55 PM > >> > > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Phono-L mailing list > >> http://phono-l.oldcrank.org > > _______________________________________________ > > Phono-L mailing list > > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org > > _______________________________________________ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
