Doug, have you got a PAIR of Patricians? You're only the second guy I've heard of to own them. For those who don't know what these are, they were 4-way HUGE loudspeaker systems that employed a 30-inch! woofer in a corner-horn enclosure that was vastly efficient. My friend who had them in his basement could blow the windows out of the house with about 8 watts of audio per each. Needless to say, he liked to play pipe organ music. LOUD :o)
Greg Bogantz ----- Original Message ----- From: "Douglas Houston" <[email protected]> To: "Antique Phonograph List" <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2008 3:27 PM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Wurlitzer P-12 > Thanks, Albert. I have one of those amplifiers, and I plan on re-capping > it. I worked in a radio store when I was a kid, and they had a record > counter. The audition amplifier was one of that model and, as you said, it > sounded good. Speaking in general terms, frequency response in Juke boxes > was strongly peaked in the low end. The customers loved it, and I'm sure > that the restaurant owners had the treble turned all the way to full cut. > Anyway, that amp will probably sound good with a preamp, such as a Fisher > 80 nseries feeding it. I have a feeling that it's better than commonly > thought. It's all about the transformers in it. > > Some time, immediately after the war, the Harmonicats did "Peg Of My > Heart" > on the VitaCoustic label. The record began with four notes, then a deep > bass string. Whatever the jukebox in that place was, that bass note almost > knocked stuff off the walls. It was in a neighborhood soda shop where us > kids congregated. I played that selection lots of times. I do have the > disc somewhere, and if I can find it, I'd like to play it on my E-V > Patricians some time. It'll probably crack plaster! > > >> [Original Message] >> From: Albert <[email protected]> >> To: Antique Phonograph List <[email protected]> >> Date: 3/26/2008 1:24:49 PM >> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Wurlitzer P-12 >> >> No actually most WurliTzer amps after 1937 are painted red with the >> exception of the W-800 which was gold and the counter models which also > were >> gold. Yes the P12 and the 412 used the gold amps with the 45 tubes. > They >> really sound good considering the technology at the time. I had Jukebox >> Friday night restore the amp on my 412 and it is awsome. Funny you >> mentioned I had a mills for many years, I just loved watching the ferris >> wheel mech. I did however install an Astatic 51-2 cartridge and removed > the >> weight from the head. It didnt look as good, but at least I was able to >> play my Rhino records (reproduction 78's) >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Douglas Houston" <[email protected]> >> To: "Antique Phonograph List" <[email protected]> >> Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2008 7:13 AM >> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Wurlitzer P-12 >> >> >> > Albert; >> > >> > Could you tell me which Wurlitzer box used the amplifier that had a > 45 >> > driving puish-pull 45's power amps....? The chassis was painted gold > (as >> > probably all Wurlitzers were). >> > >> > I was was amused at your description of "going through grooves like a >> > plow". When I was a kid, one of my friends' family had a Mills DoReMi > in >> > their dining room. Rather unconventional place for it, but that's where > it >> > was. Now, talk about a record plow! The player had a Webster-Racine >> > horseshoe magnetic pickup and the stylus pressure must have weighed in > at >> > pounds. Sure as shootin', I'd never have put any of my records on that >> > thing. Lord, what a shellac grinder that thing was! >> > >> > But it had a really neat amplifier. Push-Pull 2A3's. >> > >> > >> >> [Original Message] >> >> From: Albert <[email protected]> >> >> To: Antique Phonograph List <[email protected]> >> >> Date: 3/25/2008 10:32:45 PM >> >> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Wurlitzer P-12 >> >> >> >> The P-12 is a great early Jukebox. The only thing you will need to do > is >> >> lighten the tone arm and install a modern cartridge. This will enable >> >> you >> >> play your 78s without going through the grooves like a plow. If it > has >> >> the >> >> original amplifier you will find it has a very smooth tone with great >> >> fidelity and volume. Subscribe to Always Jukin' There are hundreds of >> >> dealers and jukebox enthusiasts out there. It is my passion. I have > 13 >> >> pre >> >> war Wurlitzers and well as Seeburgs and Rockolas. My best source for >> >> Parts >> >> is "Musical fun for everyone" Bill Butterfield in Napa California. >> >> Al >> >> Menashe >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> >> From: "Ken and Brenda Brekke" <[email protected]> >> >> To: "'Antique Phonograph List'" <[email protected]> >> >> Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2008 7:01 PM >> >> Subject: [Phono-L] Wurlitzer P-12 >> >> >> >> >> >> >I recently was able to purchase a 1934 Wurlitzer P-12 jukebox. Can >> >> >anyone >> >> > on this list refer me to where I can purchase any service manuals or >> >> > parts? >> >> > Thanks in advance, Ken B. >> >> > >> >> > _______________________________________________ >> >> > Phono-L mailing list >> >> > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > -- >> >> > Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. >> >> > Checked by AVG Free Edition. >> >> > Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.11.19/955 - Release Date: >> >> > 8/15/2007 >> >> > 4:55 PM >> >> > >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Phono-L mailing list >> >> http://phono-l.oldcrank.org >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Phono-L mailing list >> > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Phono-L mailing list >> http://phono-l.oldcrank.org > > > > _______________________________________________ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
