Happy New Year Steve. The reason I don't buy from ebay is because I was kicked off since Oct 2007. There were 2 newbie sellers that didn't say pay pal only in their auctions. I give them my address and ask for theirs. I get no response. Then a few days later, I get an email asking about payment. I again ask for their address so I can send payment. Then a day later, I get a non-paid strike. I can't leave feedback and I get "canned" emails saying nothing can be done, and have a good day, yada, yada, yada. The last straw was when I got my last strike even though I had the machine(a nice Victrola 50 s/n 9XX). Here, this seller sells me the machine and gets a refund from ebay. I pay by certified cashier's checks. I do not trust pay pal. I have over 1600 pos. feedbacks. Now that ebay is pay pal only, I do without. I have a group of sellers that I know and are fellow collectors who I buy from with out the BS with ebay. By the way Steve, I have bought from you in the past. Have a great New year, Harvey Kravitz, Phonofreak56.
--- On Wed, 12/31/08, Steven Medved <[email protected]> wrote: From: Steven Medved <[email protected]> Subject: RE: [Phono-L] Victor I Questions - Assistance Appreciated To: "Phono-l" <[email protected]> Date: Wednesday, December 31, 2008, 7:44 PM Hello Harvey, http://www.toolhaus.org/ Using this tool you can see the negative feedback a seller gave and received, stay away from sellers that left mean feedback. Also when you ask a question the type of answer you get is often the type of service you will also get. Steve _______________________________________________ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org From [email protected] Thu Jan 1 12:14:48 2009 From: [email protected] (Douglas Houston) Date: Thu Jan 1 12:15:04 2009 Subject: [Phono-L] Brunswick Panatrope Value? Rarity? Interest? Message-ID: <[email protected]> Before we get too absolute about this Brunswick, let's get a dew things in order. There was a Brunswick lowboy model with the RCA Radiola III. It used two battery tubes, type WD 11. I haven't the books nearby, but the radio chassis could be and probably was, the Radiola III-A, using four WD-11's. Those tubes had a 4 pin base, which never became standard. Another Panatrope with radio model had an RCA Radiola superheterodyne chassis in it, and used six, I believe, type UV 199 tubes, commonly referred to as just: V99. They had a funny base, with stubby pins, and locked into the socket with a pin on the side of the base. Yet, a later model of Brunswick's Panatrope with radio did use an RCA Radiola 28. This used seven UX 199 and one UX 120 tubes. The X99 and the 20 finally had the base, which is even now, considered a standard base design. Remember, that radio technology advanced so repidly during the twenties that a manufacturer might have barely gotten a productio run of radios made, only to have them obsoleted by a competetor. Brunswick, and Victor as well, rode the crest of RCA's wave of technological advancement. Victor did use the battery version of the Radiola 28, which was the cutting edge of technology in their Borgia I phono combination, with a Credenza in the opposite side of the cabinet. Victor, and Brunswick offered an AC operated version of the Radiola 28, right on the heels of the Borgia I (Victor), and the PR 148 phono combination (Brunswick). Victor added a roman II to the Borgia, and also brought out the Hyperion. In late 1927, both using an AC operated Radiola 28. Victor added a record changer to an AC operated Radiola 28, and called it 9-55. The Radiola 28 was the last of the sets by RCA to ues the X99's. I surmise that we haven't yet heard exactly what model this Panatrope is, so all of the above is speculation. One more swat now. The last of the Brunswick combos (3NW8) used RCA's Radiola 64, with a manual motor board. It is a superb performer; the Brunswick counterpart to Victor's 9-18 (both in my collection). The next step was RCA's acquisition of VTMCo, and Brunswick had to get an other radio suplier (Bremer-Tully). A couple of years ago, a Brunswick 3NW8 was on eBay, and the price went through the roof, to a foreign buyer (Guess where). As far as scarcity goes, the battery radio panatropes pop up on auction every once in a while, so they aren't exactly a holy grail. Their value may not even be greater because of the radio, but that's up to the immediate character of the bidding masses. I > [Original Message] > From: <[email protected]> > To: Antique Phonograph List <[email protected]> > Date: 1/1/2009 2:02:44 PM > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Brunswick Panatrope Value? Rarity? Interest? > > The earliest (1926) AC-powered Panatropes used a 199 tube. These were > premium sets in their day, selling for at least twice the price of a > Credenza, for the phonograph-only styles. The models with radios were > over $1000. To the student of technology, they are a wonderful > collectible (as an example of the first all-electric phonograph) and > somewhat hard to find. Unfortunately, there are few people collecting > them, so they do not seem to have much value. I would say a non- > working Panatrope is a $200-$400 machine, unless it is in an custom > cabinet. You see them now and then on ebay, and they sell in this > range. > > > On Jan 1, 2009, at 3:53 AM, [email protected] wrote: > > > Anyone care to comment on how rare a Brunswick Panatrope is? Is it a > > desirable machine since it is an early all electronic phonograph? > > It is not > > currently working and is missing the three amplifier stage tubes > > though the turntable > > functions perfectly. A non-phonograph collector friend wants to put > > it up for > > sale but does not know the value. Being an Edison only collector I > > wasn't > > interested and could not help him. It is in a cabinet comparable to > > my Edison > > C2 in quality and looks fairly clean. It is definitely earlier than > > the C2 > > with a horn speaker and tubes like a UX199. > > > > Any comments will be appreciated. > > > > Al > > > > **************New year...new news. Be the first to know what is > > making > > headlines. (http://www.aol.com/?ncid=emlcntaolcom00000026) > > _______________________________________________ > > Phono-L mailing list > > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org > > _______________________________________________ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
