Harvey, just curious why you don't trust Paypal. That seems to be the  
one thing that eBay hasn't managed to screw up.  There are very few  
things on the Internet that I trust more than Paypal. I've even used  
Paypal to buy something from a vendor that I wouldn't trust to give  
them my credit card number. A vendor can steal your credit card  
number, and charge more stuff to it or sell it to others. But they  
cannot make a fraudulent charge to Paypal. As a matter of fact, that  
is the entire reason for Paypal's creation.

Jim

On Jan 1, 2009, at 3:10 PM, harvey kravitz wrote:

> Happy New Year Steve. The reason I don't buy from ebay is because I  
> was kicked off since Oct 2007. There were 2 newbie sellers that  
> didn't say pay pal only in their auctions. I give them my address  
> and ask for theirs. I get no response. Then a few days later, I get  
> an email asking about payment. I again ask for their address so I  
> can send payment. Then a day later, I get a non-paid strike. I can't  
> leave feedback and I get "canned" emails saying nothing can be done,  
> and have a good day, yada, yada, yada. The last straw was when I got  
> my last strike even though I had the machine(a nice Victrola 50 s/n  
> 9XX). Here, this seller sells me the machine and gets a refund from  
> ebay. I pay by certified cashier's checks. I do not trust pay pal. I  
> have over 1600 pos. feedbacks. Now that ebay is pay pal only, I do  
> without. I have a group of sellers that I know and are fellow  
> collectors who I buy from with out the BS with ebay. By the way  
> Steve, I have bought from you
> in the past. Have a great New year, Harvey Kravitz, Phonofreak56.
>
From [email protected]  Thu Jan  1 13:25:39 2009
From: [email protected] ([email protected])
Date: Thu Jan  1 13:25:58 2009
Subject: [Phono-L] Re: Edison Opera eBay serial number...
Message-ID: <[email protected]>

Greetings Allen:
 
Yes I saw the patent plate but could not make out the number even after 
enlarging the photo.  There were not enough pixels in the original shot.
 
The added advantage of asking for the serial number is the research value.  
eBay has had thousands of Edison machines on since its beginning and this makes 
it a wealth of data mining.
 
Kindest Regards to You,
 
Al
 
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From [email protected]  Thu Jan  1 13:45:07 2009
From: [email protected] ([email protected])
Date: Thu Jan  1 13:45:21 2009
Subject: [Phono-L] Thanks To All - Re: Brunswick Panatrope
Message-ID: <[email protected]>

This is a Panatrope and is labeled such.  The pickup is electric and the horn 
is made of plaster which has a small cracked area to it can be seen as such.  
It is a tall machine and does not have a radio that I can see in the photos 
that were sent to me.  I will acquire more info this evening.
 
A big THANK YOU to our most learned listers for helping me on this one...
 
Al
 
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From [email protected]  Thu Jan  1 14:37:42 2009
From: [email protected] ([email protected])
Date: Thu Jan  1 14:38:05 2009
Subject: [Phono-L] Thanks To All - Re: Brunswick Panatrope
In-Reply-To: <[email protected]>
References: <[email protected]>
Message-ID: <[email protected]>

Al;

Please explain what you mean by a plaster horn.  The electric  
Panatropes had an electric pick-up and cone speakers, and the  
Exponential Style Panatropes had an acoustic sound box and a wooden  
horn (and no tubes).  As far as I know, the only Brunswick machines  
that combined  acoustic phonographs and radios were made in 1924-1925,  
and were never labeled as Panatropes.

Panatrope was a word coined by Brunswick to describe their new all  
electric phonograph, which used components sourced from RCA.  These  
were announced at the end of 1925.  They didn't even refer to it as a  
phonograph - just a Panatrope.  Everybody wanted one of the machines,  
but they were quite expensive.  The Orthophonic Victrola made the  
traditional Brunswick phonograph obsolete, so they came up with a new  
acoustic machine.  They held a contest to name the new machine, and  
the winner was Prismatone.  Evidently, "Prismatone" failed to register  
with the public in the same way as "Pantarope" had, so Brunswick soon  
started calling the Prismatone the "Panatrope, Exponential Style",  
even though it apparently did not have a true exponential horn.

For many years after, all Brunswick machines were labeled Panatrope.


On Jan 1, 2009, at 1:45 PM, [email protected] wrote:

> This is a Panatrope and is labeled such.  The pickup is electric and  
> the horn
> is made of plaster which has a small cracked area to it can be seen  
> as such.
> It is a tall machine and does not have a radio that I can see in the  
> photos
> that were sent to me.  I will acquire more info this evening.
>
> A big THANK YOU to our most learned listers for helping me on this  
> one...
>
> Al
>
> **************New year...new news.  Be the first to know what is  
> making
> headlines. (http://www.aol.com/?ncid=emlcntaolcom00000026)
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