Let's face it phono lovers...ebay is not, and will not be what it used to be. 
 Ebay is a great example of a company that was successful in making money and 
at the same time pleasing it's LOYAL customers.  Now, ebay has become a 
greedy business whose number one goal is to make money, regardless of how it 
affects the customer.

I got a real kick out of this morning's news when there was a story that 
stated that EVEN ebay is feeling the crunches of this bad economy.  The 
newscaster 
went on to say that according to ebay, the reason was because there were no 
big desirable Christmas items this year.  No, ebay.  That's not the reason.  
The reason is because some of the customers are getting fed up with the _  _  _ 
 
_ that your company is pulling over on them.  

I have joined several of you on this group that will not sell or buy on ebay. 
 It will take many more of us; but this is the only way that this greedy 
company is going to face up.

Also, have any of you noticed the fraud that has increased with ebay?  
Examples are the stolen pictures placed with items, people not getting their 
goods, 
etc., etc., etc.

My hobbies, including phonograph and record collecting, have not suffered one 
bit from my divorce from ebay.  In fact, I find myself spending more time 
enjoying my collections.  Just think, if most people would stop their love 
affair 
with ebay, they could enjoy their nice Victor V with a cool Billy Murray 
singing out the hits!

You know...I think ebay really did me a favor.  Thanks ebay for your work in 
causing me to sever my ties with you.  The divorce was cheap.  It didn't cost 
me a thing.

That's all I got to say.  You all take care and as always...

Keep 'em running at 78...rpms that is!

Brantley
Williston, S.C.
From [email protected]  Thu Jan 22 15:56:55 2009
From: [email protected] ([email protected])
Date: Thu Jan 22 15:55:14 2009
Subject: [Phono-L] Re: New Ebay My Ebay format
Message-ID: <[email protected]>

In a message dated 1/22/2009 1:52:46 PM Pacific Standard Time, Bill writes:

I also don't like the way that everybody's ID is now hidden, it makes it 
impossible to notify a buyer that they are being sold a Victor fake instead of 
the 
real thing.
Amen to that!  In the past I would write both sellers and buyers when 
something was really wrong.  Very often the seller would correct the listing 
but not 
always.  At this very moment there is an Edison early recorder with the side 
arm turned over so the lettering is on the bottom side and a dual 
recording/playback styli arm from a Standard Speaker installed with the item 
listed as a 
Standard Speaker.  The buyer may be a neophyte who jumps at the chance to own 
such a rare reproducer but has no idea the serial number shows it to be a 
converted recorder.  Since I cannot warn him this sale will go through and he 
will 
have bought a put-together kluge.
 
Regards to All,
 
Al
 
PS:  Likewise there is a photo of the Edison collection at the Fort Myers 
Winter Home ending on eBay right now.  I emailed the seller with the correction 
from his listing stating it was an "old phonograph store" photo.  I am sure the 
buyer has no idea and I hope he does not think the Edison machines, many 
fitted incorrectly with wrong horns, etc., are a guide to how machines should 
be 
set up.
 
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From [email protected]  Thu Jan 22 18:13:56 2009
From: [email protected] (Rich)
Date: Thu Jan 22 18:14:07 2009
Subject: [Phono-L] New Ebay My Ebay format
In-Reply-To: <[email protected]>
References: <[email protected]>
Message-ID: <[email protected]>

Let me make this perfectly clear, IT SUX!  Every week it seems ebay 
fiddles with some format feature that increases complexity, consumes 
more bandwidth, and severely decreases usefulness.  I do not know who 
they think they are catering to but its not me.

Daniel Melvin wrote:
> Anyone else hate the newly enforced ebay My Ebay page format as much as I
> do? At first I thought, OK, I'll just take a few minutes and figure it out
> and get it configured to where I like it. An hour later I had most things I
> didn't want to see (75% of the page) turned off. But, now it's so slow I'm
> not sure it's worth using. And I haven't been able to find a couple of
> things I used like categories in the new interface.
> 
> Anyone else having issues with the new ebay page formats?
> 
> Dan
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> 
> 
From [email protected]  Thu Jan 22 18:48:02 2009
From: [email protected] ([email protected])
Date: Thu Jan 22 18:48:18 2009
Subject: [Phono-L] New Ebay My Ebay format
Message-ID: <[email protected]>

Now it makes sense. My spam mail has tripled since Ebal changed some things. 
I still use Ebay to buy Edison Records.

P.S. Just picked up three great cylinders on Ebay for the outrageous price of 
one cent plus shipping.

Sincerely.
Rick A. Jorgensen

GOLDEN ERA AUTOMOBILE ASSOCIATION
http://www.geaaonline.org
UNCLE JOSH'S PUN'KIN CENTRE STORIES
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From [email protected]  Thu Jan 22 18:28:20 2009
From: [email protected] (Eric Boyles)
Date: Thu Jan 22 18:49:45 2009
Subject: [Phono-L] New Ebay My Ebay format
In-Reply-To: <[email protected]>
References: <[email protected]>
        <[email protected]>
Message-ID: <[email protected]>

Which is being reflected in their stock price........ the only thing the 
new management understands......it's continued decline may actually 
resort to the original business model..... or least my hopes....... they 
are trying to compete with Amazon and getting their but kicked!

Rich wrote:
> Let me make this perfectly clear, IT SUX!  Every week it seems ebay 
> fiddles with some format feature that increases complexity, consumes 
> more bandwidth, and severely decreases usefulness.  I do not know who 
> they think they are catering to but its not me.
>
> Daniel Melvin wrote:
>> Anyone else hate the newly enforced ebay My Ebay page format as much 
>> as I
>> do? At first I thought, OK, I'll just take a few minutes and figure 
>> it out
>> and get it configured to where I like it. An hour later I had most 
>> things I
>> didn't want to see (75% of the page) turned off. But, now it's so 
>> slow I'm
>> not sure it's worth using. And I haven't been able to find a couple of
>> things I used like categories in the new interface.
>>
>> Anyone else having issues with the new ebay page formats?
>>
>> Dan
>> _______________________________________________
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>>
>>
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From [email protected]  Thu Jan 22 18:57:41 2009
From: [email protected] (harvey kravitz)
Date: Thu Jan 22 18:57:53 2009
Subject: [Phono-L] New Ebay My Ebay format
In-Reply-To: <[email protected]>
Message-ID: <[email protected]>

Hey Guys, Check out? ebay under phonograph horn!!!!! You'll see a rear mount 
Talkophone with a Columbia motor, a cut down Searchlight horn, with a 
crane!!!!!!! I have been divorced from ebay for 1 1/2 years now. That new 
format even for guests suck. I still look for entertainment purposes. The way 
these descriptions are written, I wonder if these people went to school. There 
is nothing on TV, so I'll laugh at ebay. Harvey P. Kravitz

--- On Thu, 1/22/09, Rich <[email protected]> wrote:
From: Rich <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] New Ebay My Ebay format
To: "Antique Phonograph List" <[email protected]>
Date: Thursday, January 22, 2009, 6:13 PM

Let me make this perfectly clear, IT SUX!  Every week it seems ebay fiddles with
some format feature that increases complexity, consumes more bandwidth, and
severely decreases usefulness.  I do not know who they think they are catering
to but its not me.

Daniel Melvin wrote:
> Anyone else hate the newly enforced ebay My Ebay page format as much as I
> do? At first I thought, OK, I'll just take a few minutes and figure it
out
> and get it configured to where I like it. An hour later I had most things
I
> didn't want to see (75% of the page) turned off. But, now it's so
slow I'm
> not sure it's worth using. And I haven't been able to find a
couple of
> things I used like categories in the new interface.
> 
> Anyone else having issues with the new ebay page formats?
> 
> Dan
> _______________________________________________
> Phono-L mailing list
> http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
> 
> 
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From [email protected]  Thu Jan 22 21:21:36 2009
From: [email protected] ([email protected])
Date: Thu Jan 22 21:21:53 2009
Subject: [Phono-L] New Ebay My Ebay format - Get That Divorce!
Message-ID: <[email protected]>

 
In a message dated 1/22/2009 4:04:55 PM Pacific Standard Time,  
[email protected] writes:

Let's  face it phono lovers...ebay is not, and will not be what it used to 
be.  
Ebay is a great example of a company that was successful in making money  and 
at the same time pleasing it's LOYAL customers.  Now, ebay has  become a 
greedy business whose number one goal is to make money,  regardless of how it 
affects the customer.

I got a real kick out of  this morning's news when there was a story that 
stated that EVEN ebay is  feeling the crunches of this bad economy.  The 
newscaster 
went on to  say that according to ebay, the reason was because there were no 
big  desirable Christmas items this year.  No, ebay.  That's not the  reason. 
 
The reason is because some of the customers are getting fed  up with the _  _ 
 _  
_ that your company is pulling over on  them.  

I have joined several of you on this group that will not  sell or buy on 
ebay. 
It will take many more of us; but this is the only  way that this greedy 
company is going to face up.

Also, have any of  you noticed the fraud that has increased with ebay?  
Examples are the  stolen pictures placed with items, people not getting their 
goods, 
etc.,  etc., etc.

My hobbies, including phonograph and record collecting, have  not suffered 
one 
bit from my divorce from ebay.  In fact, I find  myself spending more time 
enjoying my collections.  Just think, if  most people would stop their love 
affair 
with ebay, they could enjoy their  nice Victor V with a cool Billy Murray 
singing out the hits!

You  know...I think ebay really did me a favor.  Thanks ebay for your work in 
 
causing me to sever my ties with you.  The divorce was cheap.   It didn't 
cost 
me a thing.

That's all I got to say.  You all  take care and as always...

Keep 'em running at 78...rpms that  is!

Brantley
Williston,  S.C.
_______________________________________________


I'm with ye, Brantly!
 
I haven't used e-bay (other than for entertainment, a la Harvey K) since  
they went to Pay Pal or Nada.  
 
Now, Nada n' I will go play a record on a Victor Talking Machine and we  will 
enjoy the music.  
 
See y'all later!
 
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From [email protected]  Thu Jan 22 20:56:28 2009
From: [email protected] (JimK)
Date: Thu Jan 22 21:52:13 2009
Subject: [Phono-L] New Ebay My Ebay format
References: <[email protected]>
Message-ID: <002001c97d16$f5de9f50$0a00a...@jim>

I agree, it sucks. When they first let this 'new format' out in the wild, I 
opted back out, quickly as I hated it. Now I see that you cant go back to 
the old way, but will have to put up with it. Google mail did the same thing 
a few weeks ago, and a lot of people complained. It's no wonder we all need 
high speed internet these days for web pages, oh yeah, and Utube to watch 
phonograph videos :) The old saying still holds true - New is not always 
better....

Jim

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Daniel Melvin" <[email protected]>
To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2009 2:39 PM
Subject: [Phono-L] New Ebay My Ebay format


> Anyone else hate the newly enforced ebay My Ebay page format as much as I
> do? At first I thought, OK, I'll just take a few minutes and figure it out
> and get it configured to where I like it. An hour later I had most things 
> I
> didn't want to see (75% of the page) turned off. But, now it's so slow I'm
> not sure it's worth using. And I haven't been able to find a couple of
> things I used like categories in the new interface.
>
> Anyone else having issues with the new ebay page formats?
>
> Dan
> _______________________________________________
> Phono-L mailing list
> http://phono-l.oldcrank.org 

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