Walt, After all of the ranting and raving, I must agree with you, without ebay, I would not have met some of my dear friends in the hobby. That's a freebie benefit.
Walt, that's it for me with the ebay chants. Let's get on with true phonograph talk... Has anyone heard how the Orlando show went. I spoke to a fellow member of our club and a contributor here and he said that it was all right. There were no big rare items, and certainly did not appear to be any bargains. I am hoping that the March show in Mooresville, N.C. goes well. I know that the Gfells will be there. Tim Fabrizzio has visited several times and brought a lot of interest to all. Take care all. Brantley Williston, S.C. From [email protected] Sun Jan 25 14:02:43 2009 From: [email protected] (Rich) Date: Sun Jan 25 14:02:54 2009 Subject: [Phono-L] New Ebay My Ebay format - Get That Divorce! In-Reply-To: <[email protected]> References: <[email protected]> <[email protected]> <[email protected]> <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]> What we have here is the low Buy-It-Now price with the Shipping and Handling far in excess of reasonable and proper. Then when your item shows up it is packed in an inside out priority mail box with a couple of sheets of newsprint and it was sent USPS Media Mail and it is far from media mail qualified material. Walt Sommers wrote: > Steve, they already beat you to the punch. Low Buy It Now prices already > represent the highest profit items (in terms of percentage) that eBay > collects. It has been that way for a long time. It isn't that they have > stopped caring about collecting nutters, they never did. > > Taking the good with the bad is a part of every endeavor, and although > eBay really exacerbates the extremes of that notion, I continue to be > motivated to do a little buying and selling there because I can help > people who don't know any other place to find things the right way. More > than a few people on this list got their start on eBay and a few have > since been weened and led to greener pastures. I was happy before eBay > because of the wonderful people I knew. They haven't changed that and > despite their gypsy pickpocketing they have accidentally provided a > means for me to meet many more. > > eBay owes me nothing. They can charge for all sorts of things, but the > best part is that they will never be able to charge a fee that could > come close to the value of the relationships that I have been able to > make with many who have become my friends. I win - eBay loses. > > Sorry to be so positive, > Walt > > I sure hope this thread dies soon.... > > > > > Steven Medved wrote: >> Replace the collecting nutters with high volume sellers that have low >> buy it now prices. >> They will not care until it hurt$ them. >> >> >> >>> Thanks Brantley >>> >>> You summed it up exactly right. >>> >>> Also I cannot figure out why ebay keeps changing its format. I don't >>> give a >>> hoot about what ebay thinks are favorite items and they probably do not >>> either, there's probably some trick there like top sellers get their >>> junk >>> listed first. Hands up who'd like to see most recently listed first. >>> >>> And the management idiots who approved the new paging format where >>> for the >>> page to reload you first get shot to the top of the screen (oh! I'm >>> on a new >>> page, kind of looks like the one I was on) and as you start to scroll >>> down >>> the page reloads. Do others have this issue? >>> >>> I have a friend at ebay and offered to explain to whoever in the company >>> what was pissing off "loyal" ebayers like myself. >>> >>> Just a bit surprised when I was told the answer internally was "oh >>> yes, the >>> collecting nutters". >>> >>> Say WHAT? So Ebay would run much better if one did not have all these >>> sellers and buyers eating up the bandwidth? >>> >>> Obviously someone does not get it! >>> >>> best >>> >>> Rob >>> >>> On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 6:21 AM, <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> >>>> In a message dated 1/22/2009 4:04:55 PM Pacific Standard Time, >>>> [email protected] writes: >>>> >>>> Let's face it phono lovers...ebay is not, and will not be what it >>>> used to >>>> be. >>>> Ebay is a great example of a company that was successful in making >>>> money >>>> and >>>> at the same time pleasing it's LOYAL customers. Now, ebay has >>>> become a >>>> greedy business whose number one goal is to make money, regardless >>>> of how >>>> it >>>> affects the customer. >>>> >>>> I got a real kick out of this morning's news when there was a story >>>> that >>>> stated that EVEN ebay is feeling the crunches of this bad economy. >>>> The >>>> newscaster >>>> went on to say that according to ebay, the reason was because there >>>> were >>>> no >>>> big desirable Christmas items this year. No, ebay. That's not the >>>> reason. >>>> >>>> The reason is because some of the customers are getting fed up with >>>> the _ >>>> _ >>>> _ >>>> _ that your company is pulling over on them. >>>> >>>> I have joined several of you on this group that will not sell or >>>> buy on >>>> ebay. >>>> It will take many more of us; but this is the only way that this >>>> greedy >>>> company is going to face up. >>>> >>>> Also, have any of you noticed the fraud that has increased with ebay? >>>> Examples are the stolen pictures placed with items, people not getting >>>> their >>>> goods, >>>> etc., etc., etc. >>>> >>>> My hobbies, including phonograph and record collecting, have not >>>> suffered >>>> one >>>> bit from my divorce from ebay. In fact, I find myself spending >>>> more time >>>> enjoying my collections. Just think, if most people would stop >>>> their love >>>> affair >>>> with ebay, they could enjoy their nice Victor V with a cool Billy >>>> Murray >>>> singing out the hits! >>>> >>>> You know...I think ebay really did me a favor. Thanks ebay for >>>> your work >>>> in >>>> >>>> causing me to sever my ties with you. The divorce was cheap. It >>>> didn't >>>> cost >>>> me a thing. >>>> >>>> That's all I got to say. You all take care and as always... >>>> >>>> Keep 'em running at 78...rpms that is! >>>> >>>> Brantley >>>> Williston, S.C. >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> >>>> >>>> I'm with ye, Brantly! >>>> >>>> I haven't used e-bay (other than for entertainment, a la Harvey K) >>>> since >>>> they went to Pay Pal or Nada. >>>> >>>> Now, Nada n' I will go play a record on a Victor Talking Machine and we >>>> will >>>> enjoy the music. >>>> >>>> See y'all later! >>>> >>>> Edward, in Zigzag >>>> **************From Wall Street to Main Street and everywhere in >>>> between, >>>> stay >>>> up-to-date with the latest news. >>>> (http://aol.com?ncid=emlcntaolcom00000023<http://aol.com/?ncid=emlcntaolcom00000023> >>>> >>>> >>>> ) >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Phono-L mailing list >>>> http://phono-l.oldcrank.org >>>> >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Phono-L mailing list >>> http://phono-l.oldcrank.org >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Phono-L mailing list >> http://phono-l.oldcrank.org >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >> >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: >> 270.10.13/1914 - Release Date: 1/24/2009 8:40 PM >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org > > From [email protected] Mon Jan 26 03:00:55 2009 From: [email protected] (D P Ingram) Date: Mon Jan 26 03:01:14 2009 Subject: [Phono-L] eBay opera auction that was a photo In-Reply-To: <[email protected]> References: <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]> I think someone should send the author of the "eBay guide" (sic) a guide to writing...

