I rarely sell on eBay or buy for that matter. It is common knowledge I guess, sellers cannot leave negative feedback. This may explain why they wait on the buyer. oldcranky
On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 2:00 PM, Rich <[email protected]> wrote: > You can seriously hurt a seller by marking all of the star ratings as a 1. > If they do not have many sales it will get them suspended. > > > buck Buchanan wrote: > >> I just received this email from a seller. >> He is holding my feed back as hostage until I leave him good feed back. >> His ebay ID is firebirdologist >> >> This was his message to me: >> >> Hi! >> >> It's on the way today! Thank you again for your purchase. I will >> happily post positive feedback for this transaction if I receive the >> same. >> >> All the best, >> >> Randy >> >> This will be my reply: >> >> Randy, >> Many people that I speak with are starting to feel as if feed back from >> the seller is being withheld as a hostage. Because of this I am joining a >> growing group that only leaves feed back for sellers that first leaves it >> for the buyer. >> My part is over, if you fail to leave me feedback then so be it. >> You may also thank your fellow sellers that practice the same method that >> you are trying on me now. Thank you Bill >> >> Please stand with me on this issue, when you get a seller that fails to >> send feed back for you. Please send him a similar message and do what you >> would like with his feed back. >> >> Thank you Bill >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Phono-L mailing list >> http://phono-l.oldcrank.org >> >> >> _______________________________________________ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org > From [email protected] Fri Jan 23 14:44:36 2009 From: [email protected] (Daniel Melvin) Date: Fri Jan 23 14:44:48 2009 Subject: [Phono-L] Ebay feed back being held as hostage by sellers!!! In-Reply-To: <[email protected]> References: <[email protected]> <[email protected]> <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]> I have only been a buyer on ebay and a few months ago stopped leaving feedback to any seller that did not leave me feedback first. It's a matter of fairness. If they recieved my payment and sent the item, then they should leave me positive feedback. If they don't, I just don't leave feedback at all. I did leave feedback religously in the past. But with all the stupid star ratings and sellers that often never leave feedback, I just pulled back and decided to more or less ignore the whole thing. They have stopped meaning anything with recent changes anyway. dan On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 2:32 PM, Mike Stitt <[email protected]> wrote: > I rarely sell on eBay or buy for that matter. It is common knowledge I > guess, sellers cannot leave negative feedback. This may explain why they > wait on the buyer. > oldcranky > > On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 2:00 PM, Rich <[email protected]> wrote: > > > You can seriously hurt a seller by marking all of the star ratings as a > 1. > > If they do not have many sales it will get them suspended. > > > > > > buck Buchanan wrote: > > > >> I just received this email from a seller. > >> He is holding my feed back as hostage until I leave him good feed back. > >> His ebay ID is firebirdologist > >> > >> This was his message to me: > >> > >> Hi! > >> > >> It's on the way today! Thank you again for your purchase. I will > >> happily post positive feedback for this transaction if I receive the > >> same. > >> > >> All the best, > >> > >> Randy > >> > >> This will be my reply: > >> > >> Randy, > >> Many people that I speak with are starting to feel as if feed back from > >> the seller is being withheld as a hostage. Because of this I am joining > a > >> growing group that only leaves feed back for sellers that first leaves > it > >> for the buyer. > >> My part is over, if you fail to leave me feedback then so be it. > >> You may also thank your fellow sellers that practice the same method > that > >> you are trying on me now. Thank you Bill > >> > >> Please stand with me on this issue, when you get a seller that fails to > >> send feed back for you. Please send him a similar message and do what > you > >> would like with his feed back. > >> > >> Thank you Bill > >> > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Phono-L mailing list > >> http://phono-l.oldcrank.org > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > > Phono-L mailing list > > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org > > > _______________________________________________ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org > From [email protected] Fri Jan 23 15:37:17 2009 From: [email protected] (Walt Sommers) Date: Fri Jan 23 15:37:31 2009 Subject: [Phono-L] Ebay feed back being held as hostage by sellers!!! In-Reply-To: <[email protected]> References: <[email protected]> <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]> This is why I love going to shows instead of online venues: meeting people, digging through junk, shaking hands, talking, getting to know people, etc... If you leave feedback, do so honestly. If he sent it in a timely fashion and it was what you expected, then nailing him with low DSR ratings is dishonest. I, too, object to the notion of demanding feedback and have never asked for someone to leave it for me in 10 years and over 5,000 sales but that has never been cause for me to act in a retaliatory manner (tempted though I was a few times). Thankfully I have always found that I am in fact a much bigger man than that. I just dump the emotional stigma of having been made to feel extorted and I always leave the feedback I had intended anyway. I treat them, so much as I am able, in the kind and generous way that I would prefer to be treated. This is always the correct course because it satisfies my conscience in an objective manner and is far more profitable to me and others. Just because people are mean, unpleasant, pushy, rude, etc. is never a reason for me to emulate their behavior. If some mean guy sends me some phonograph parts that I bought from him and they show up in a timely fashion and in the condition I was anticipating, that's a positive rating with across the board 4.0 DSR ratings, even if he plays the feedback hostage-extortion game. If they had a check box to rate personalities there might be an honest reason to leave a 1.0, but otherwise, I've got genuinely better things to do. It is not the pushy hustle-bustle people whose lack of business and interpersonal skills are so weak that they cannot say thank you without being thanked first that bug me: people like that have always been around and they are easy to work with really. It is far worse and more damaging when someone willfully misrepresents or encourages another to knowingly misrepresent products and services as a way of damaging that person simply to satisfy an emotional urge. (BTW: Sgt Bill, I found an original instruction sheet for the VV 2-65 that you need so you don't have to make do with the VV 2-55 sheet I was going to send. I hope to get the copies tomorrow. They will be in the mail probably Monday.) - Walt Rich wrote: > You can seriously hurt a seller by marking all of the star ratings as > a 1. If they do not have many sales it will get them suspended. > > buck Buchanan wrote: >> I just received this email from a seller. >> He is holding my feed back as hostage until I leave him good feed back. >> His ebay ID is firebirdologist >> >> This was his message to me: >> >> Hi! >> >> It's on the way today! Thank you again for your purchase. I will >> happily post positive feedback for this transaction if I receive the >> same. >> >> All the best, >> >> Randy >> >> This will be my reply: >> >> Randy, >> Many people that I speak with are starting to feel as if feed back >> from the seller is being withheld as a hostage. Because of this I am >> joining a growing group that only leaves feed back for sellers that >> first leaves it for the buyer. >> My part is over, if you fail to leave me feedback then so be it. >> You may also thank your fellow sellers that practice the same method >> that you are trying on me now. Thank you Bill >> >> Please stand with me on this issue, when you get a seller that fails >> to send feed back for you. Please send him a similar message and do >> what you would like with his feed back. >> >> Thank you Bill >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Phono-L mailing list >> http://phono-l.oldcrank.org >> >> > _______________________________________________ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.12/1911 - Release Date: 1/23/2009 > 7:28 AM > >
