I rely on feedback when deciding on whether to bid on an item. When selling, I always leave feedback as soon as payment is received. If someobe doesn't leave me feedback, oh well! John Robles Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
-----Original Message----- From: <[email protected]> Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2009 15:08:46 To: Antique Phonograph List<[email protected]> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Ebay feed back being held as hostage by sellers!!! I've got a high feedback rating -- over 1400 somewhere -- but I have never once asked anyone to leave me feedback. If I had some for every transaction it would be quite a bit higher. I refuse to ask for it and I instinctively resent being asked for it. Nevertheless I understand the need that some people have to receive it. I once sold a rare 12" 78 jazz record set to a fellow in Japan. He wrote me back that it was in stupendous condition, much better than he expected, and that my packing job was the best he had ever seen. It would have been nice to see that in my feedback, because I didn't have any from record buyers and having had some like that might have boosted the confidence of collectors to bid on my item. So I sympathize with sellers who would like some public recognition for doing their part well. For a time I didn't bother leaving any feedback. These days I always get around to leaving it just as a matter of cleaning up the reminder on my eBay page. I don't always get it in return. C'est la vie. Chris ---- buck Buchanan <[email protected]> wrote: > I just received this email from a seller. > He is holding my feed back as hostage until I leave him good feed back. > His ebay ID is?? firebirdologist > > This was his message to me: > > Hi! > > It's on the way today! Thank you again for your purchase. I will > happily post positive feedback for this transaction if I receive the > same. > > All the best, > > Randy > > This will be my reply: > > Randy, > Many people that I speak with are starting to feel as if feed back from the > seller is being withheld as a hostage. > Because of this I am joining a growing group that only leaves feed back for > sellers that first leaves it for the buyer. > My part is over, if you fail to leave me feedback then so be it. > You may also thank your fellow sellers that practice the same method that you > are trying on me now. > Thank you Bill > > Please stand with me on this issue, when you get a seller that fails to send > feed back for you. Please send him a similar message and do what you would > like with his feed back. > > Thank you? Bill > >_______________________________________________ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org _______________________________________________ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org From [email protected] Fri Jan 23 12:50:18 2009 From: [email protected] (Walt Sommers) Date: Fri Jan 23 12:55:34 2009 Subject: [Phono-L] eBay opera auction that was a photo In-Reply-To: <[email protected]> References: <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]> A study? I think not. The seller got caught (by potential buyers and other observers like us) doing nothing more than running scams. The guide he wrote on eBay is a 5-year old child's transparent attempt to cover his tracks once he was caught. He ended them all because he was getting heat - and not just from the phonograph world. The seller had other listings (not phonographs) at the same time and some of those are now being discussed in various internet forums. He was able to end them before eBay had to get involved, and something makes me think that eBay is now looking into the situation right now. Even if the guide he crafted to try to justify himself had been more carefully written with good grammar and diction, it still remains that he intentionally misrepresented items for sale. The "guide" he wrote appeared within hours of his user id popping up all over the internet - curious, isn't it? There is no way this describes a legitimate survey. The owner of the pictures would have had to grant permission for them to be used and we know that never happened. One of the single most valuable parts of a legitimate survey of this type would be to ascertain not so much whether there are fish nibbling on your bait (which is where he ended it) but whether you can sink that big hook and pull that 3 foot muskie out of the lake. Without an actual payment from someone there is no way that a survey could be said to be complete let alone successful. Not to mention that the text looks like it was thumbed-out on a blackberry and not quite re-formatted for full screen width. That seller will never object to people telling him that they did not like his survey or methodology: he is just glad that he hasn't [yet] been caught and charged with the crimes he committed. buck Buchanan wrote: > I just sent the person a note about what he did and how I felt about it. > If you follow the guide back it will take you to the person's ebay > information. > I think we all should let him know what we thought about his so called failed > study. > The information that he obtained with using the phonograph is really flawed > and he should be told about that. > > Thank you > > Bill > > --- On Fri, 1/23/09, Rich <[email protected]> wrote: > From: Rich <[email protected]> > Subject: [Phono-L] eBay opera auction that was a photo > To: "Antique Phonograph List" <[email protected]> > Date: Friday, January 23, 2009, 12:42 PM > > Remember that auction where the seller was auctioning a photograph and claimed > it was research? We have results. > http://reviews.ebay.com/SHOCKING-TRUTH-about-bidding_W0QQugidZ10000000009959117 > _______________________________________________ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.12/1911 - Release Date: 1/23/2009 > 7:28 AM > >

