I lost out on $500 'cause I didn't cash a phony $2800 M.O. He was going to let me keep that (in addition to the $300 for the item) after I mailed the extra $2000 to his son.

It was well done - the M.O. was drawn on a national bank. But having STEPPED off the turnip truck I Googled the bank - they had branch only two blocks away from the one the M.O. was from - "Why so close?" I asked myself.

So I called their 1-800 #. I gave them the account number - I didn't even finish before they told me it was a phony. The interesting part was they didn't want a copy or have anything to do with it - great attitude!

Google's great - I also Googled the phone number of the bank on the phony M.O. - it came up associated with three other numbers. I called all four. They were businesses who had no knowledge of the individual but had similar inquiries - they assumed the phone company had listed the number wrong.

And all you have to do is let the buyer know you'll hold the stuff for a week or two for the MO to clear. They'll either agree or go away.

best, Darrell
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Rich wrote:
If you request a USPS money order you can go to the post office and actually check that the MO is valid and not a phony. Othe MOs may or may not be capable of being verified.

On 05/01/2012 08:50 AM, john robles wrote:
Actually it is totally understandable why she wouldn't take a money order. There is a huge amount of scamming on Craigslist involving people who claim to be interested in your item and who want to pay by cashier's check or money order. These money orders and cashier's checks are stolen from banks and are altered. Craigslist has a warning about this and about accepting those types of payment. When yuo get them and you send the item off, you find out that the money order or cashier's check is no good and you are stuck. So the seller was probably afraid that this was one of those scams. They are so widespread on Craigslist that I get several offers when I am selling something there. They always begin with a note from the would-be buyer asking if the item is still available. They never state what the item is - like they don;t say "Is the phonograph still available?" When you answer and say yes, you get another email, usually from a different person, stating "Thakn you for your swift reply. I am busy and so cannot come to pick up the ite,m, but will pay you (soe additional sum of money) for your trouble. I will send payment by certified bank check (or money order) and upon receipt I will arrange for my shipper to pick up th item". That is usually how it goes. When anyone asks me it the item is still available, I say yes, but not if you want to pay by certified check or money order. Then I usually don't hear back, or more often I hear "Thank you for your response. I will send payment blah blah blah. It's like they never read my response. So this lady was probably afraid it was a counterfeit money order scam. Paypal or cash on pickup is the best way to go to complete the deal. Speaking of scams, though how do you know if you send cash that you will ever get your item?
John Robles



From: "Vinyl Visions"<[email protected]>
Date: Mon, Apr 30, 2012 8:18 pm
Subject: [Phono-L] ebay fraudlent seller
To:<[email protected]>


Another
scam related incident - I just "won" a music box that was a replica of a
  Thorens machine for the minimum bid of $15.00 - parts missing, it
really wasn't worth much more. The seller cancelled the transaction
because he/she said that he/she was "not comfortable" accepting a Wells
Fargo money order for payment... like he/she was taking a risk - on
$15.00? I was the one taking the risk attempting to send a cash
equivalent payment without first receiving the item... I don't get it,
except that was a way to get out of the sale. Fortunately, in all of the
transactions I have made in the US and Europe, I only got scammed once,
  even though I have sent cash for payments... just lucky, I guess,
except most collectors are honest.
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