Witch lenght do you suggest? I have a drill and can file the tip with a file. Kenneth
________________________________ From: Rich <[email protected]> To: Antique Phonograph List <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2012 1:13 PM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Looking for a screw for a BK.... You buy a 5-40 filster head machine screw, chuck it into your electric drill and file down the head. http://www.microfasteners.com/catalog/products/MSCMSF.cfm On 07/26/2012 11:38 AM, Vinyl Visions wrote: > > The main problem with finding set screws, is not the 5-40 thread, it is the > slot, as opposed to a socket head. I have a local fastener company that > stocks a bazillion screws of all types and shapes and has plenty of stock, > but slotted are real hard to find, unless they are new old stock. Collectors > of antique machinery of all types have bought up all of the available stock > of slotted screws. I recently searched for any size slotted set screws for my > restoration of a Fairy Phono Lamp - no luck - not that they might be out > there somewhere, just not commonly available any more. > >> Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2012 21:21:17 -0700 >> From: [email protected] >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Looking for a screw for a BK.... >> >> Ron, >> I don't know George Vollema that I know of. Is he here in the Phono-L list ? >> If not how do I contact him? >> Ken >> >> >> ________________________________ >> From: Ron L'Herault<[email protected]> >> To: 'Antique Phonograph List'<[email protected]> >> Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2012 9:28 PM >> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Looking for a screw for a BK.... >> >> I think you are looking for a set screw, or grub screw, probably slotted. >> Try searching for that. have you asked George Vollema? >> >> Ron L >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On >> Behalf Of Ken aka: OnATorrent >> Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2012 4:18 PM >> To: Antique Phonograph List >> Subject: [Phono-L] Looking for a screw for a BK.... >> >> Hello all, >> >> I am looking now for a headless screw for a Columba BK. It is the size 5-40 >> and holds the rod that he caraige slides across above the feed screw and >> gear. It's for the rod that is in front of the mandrel. There is only one >> screw and it goes on the left side of the rod. This is the BK with the >> black bedplate. I am hoping I can find some one with an original one that I >> do not have to alter. I called Dwyane Wyatt and he only has one that I >> would have to screw in and then cut off. That is not the way I want to go >> about it if I can help it. If any one has one I would be very happy to >> purchase it. >> I would also like to thank EVERYONE for all the help I have been given >> here. I live in a very rural mile square town with it being over 100 miles >> to the nearest city. It is so nice to be able to be in contact with other >> collectors even though I do not get to meet anyone face to face. Maybe I >> will be able to make it to the next Orlando, Florida show and get to see >> some old friends and make some new ones. >> Kenneth >> >> >> ________________________________ >> From: Vinyl Visions<[email protected]> >> To: "[email protected]"<[email protected]> >> Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2012 2:19 PM >> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Fwd: Looking for info or a 2/4 minute attachment. >> >> >> Hi Ken,Please explain what you meant by the right hand side of the >> attachment was missing... If it is just the bearing on the right side, you >> already have one in your machine. He couldn't be referring to the feedscrew, >> since that is permanently attached to the 2/4 gearing. The only other thing >> would be the feedscrew tube, which you also already have. So, if he has the >> feedscrew with the round gear case assembly attached and he has the BE plate >> that has the locking post on it, you should be good. You might also need the >> screws to attach the plate and the tube. Send a pic if you have one. Also, >> let me know what he is asking, if you don't mind. My email is: >> vinyl(dot)visions(at)live(dot)comCurt >> >>> Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2012 06:45:35 -0700 >>> From: [email protected] >>> To: [email protected] >>> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Fwd: Looking for info or a 2/4 minute attachment. >>> >>> I have a large collection of Edison 2 minute cylinders and was just in >> fear that he diamond stylus in the H stylus would carve out or damage the >> grooves in the was cylinders. I know what you mean about wax breaking. I >> just broke my copy of Bake Dat Chicken Pie and I was almost in tears over >> it. Lucky for me I found someone willing to sell thiers and it is in better >> condition than mine was. So I guess it all worke out for the good. But >> thanks for your input. I think I have found a 2/4 minute attachment for my >> Sears Oxford that was made after the BKT so the BK conversion attachment >> will work on it. How cool is that? Still no luck on a complete Colubia BE >> 2/4 minute attachment. I found someone that has most of one but missing the >> right hand side of it. I told him if he can find the other part I would be >> more than happy to buy it. >>> Again, thanks for all your help, >>> Ken >>> >>> >>> ________________________________ >>> From: Vinyl Visions<[email protected]> >>> To: "[email protected]"<[email protected]> >>> Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2012 8:56 AM >>> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Fwd: Looking for info or a 2/4 minute attachment. >>> >>> >>> Hi Ken,Yes, you can play 2 minute cylinders with an H stylus. However, >> that being said, I am not a big fan of playing wax cylinders. I don't >> particularly like the brittleness of the original wax and hate it when one >> breaks... also, I like the music on the Blue Amberols and Indestructibles >> better, so that is what I collect. Everybody has a different idea about >> this, but I have a friend who just paid a large sum for a 2 min 6" Columbia >> cylinder at Union and when he got home it fell out of the box and shattered >> :( Curt >>> >>>> Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2012 22:57:04 -0700 >>>> From: [email protected] >>>> To: [email protected] >>>> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Fwd: Looking for info or a 2/4 minute >> attachment. >>>> >>>> Bob and Curt, >>>> If I do have an Edison H Stylus put in my Lyric reproducer by Steven >> Medved, would I still be able to play 2 minute record with out damage to >> them? The Edison 4 minute diamond stylus doesn't work on Edison 2 minute >> records, does it? I have always used a K reproducer so I can switch between >> 2 and 4 minute cylinders. >>>> This is all a learning experience for me about Columbia reproducers and >> conversion kits and the change in stylus needed. >>>> Thanks to you both for your help, I really appreciate it very much. >> Honestly even though I might not post always post on Phono-L, I do get a lot >> out of it and everyone that I have met here has been more than helpful. I >> must say if it was not for Joan and Rob Rolfs in 1993 and how they >> introduced me to thier new Charter Chapter of M.A.P.S. in Wisconsin when I >> was only 26. Without meeting them I would have missed out on one of the >> greatist joys in my life. Now that I have been collecting for 19 years and >> 45 years old, I still learn new things and always will and other than that I >> feel I have met some of the nicest and honest people here that always reach >> out to me when I am in need of help. >>>> Thanks to you both Bob and Curt, and thanks to everyone else that has >> made this a very enjoyable experience! >>>> Kenneth Keeton >>>> >>>> PS: Sometime I will have to post here the story of how I just happened >> to walk in to collecting phonographs and how it was for me at an early age. >> I feel I have a very interesting story that goes to show how wonderful our >> collecting community is. >>>> >>>> >>>> ________________________________ >>>> From: Bob Maffit<[email protected]> >>>> To: 'Antique Phonograph List'<[email protected]> >>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 11:23 PM >>>> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Fwd: Looking for info or a 2/4 minute >> attachment. >>>> >>>> Ken: >>>> >>>> I can attest to the same, Steve does very credible work at a "down to >> earth" >>>> price. >>>> >>>> later >>>> >>>> Bob >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] >> On >>>> Behalf Of Vinyl Visions >>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 8:14 PM >>>> To: [email protected] >>>> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Fwd: Looking for info or a 2/4 minute attachmet. >>>> >>>> >>>> Ken,If you do find a 2/4 conversion kit, you will also need a 4 minute >>>> stylus in your Lyric reproducer. Finding a 4 min original Columbia >>>> reproducer is another needle in a haystack and not cheap. I sent my >> original >>>> 2 minute Lyric to Steven Medved and he installed an Edison H needle bar >> and >>>> stylus, along with a copper diaphragm, which works perfectly and solved >> my >>>> problem. Steven is on the list frequently, so when you need him, just >> ask... >>>> he does great work.Curt >>>> >>>>> Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2012 14:48:47 -0700 >>>>> From: [email protected] >>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Fwd: Looking for info or a 2/4 minute >> attachmet. >>>>> >>>>> Curt, >>>>> Thanks for all the information. I printed it out so I can refer back >> to >>>> it later. I do that with some posts so that it is easy for me to >> remember >>>> and cataloged. >>>>> Thanks again, >>>>> Kenneth >>>>> PS: I book marked your welcome page. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ________________________________ >>>>> From: Vinyl Visions<[email protected]> >>>>> To: "[email protected]"<[email protected]> >>>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 5:05 PM >>>>> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Fwd: Looking for info or a 2/4 minute >> attachmet. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Ken, >>>>> If you would like to see what a BE conversion looks like, go to our >>>> webpage: http://www.carolinaphonosociety.com/ After clicking on ENTER, >> you >>>> will be on the page with a woman and Nipper - at the top of the page, >> click >>>> on the link "Columbia BF 2-4 minute conversion" >>>>> I recently did the same thing you are attempting to do with your BE, >> to my >>>> BF machine. However, I could not find the actual BF conversion kit and >>>> adapted a BE conversion kit to work. The main difference between the two >> is >>>> the length of the feedscrew. The BE is approx. 8" long and the BF is >> approx. >>>> 10" long - the adaptation would not have worked in reverse - a BF kit >> will >>>> not work on a BE. >>>>> No one seemed to know much about Columbia 2/4 conversions when I was >>>> researching mine earlier this year, so I have learned quite a bit about >>>> them. First, if you find a kit, it has to include a feedscrew with the >>>> gearing attached and an adapter plate with a locking post for the >> conversion >>>> to work. Make sure all the parts are there before purchasing one, >> because >>>> they are a needle in a haystack to find. The pics of my machine with the >> BE >>>> adapter on it are on the above website. >>>>> Although, Columbia made the adapter kits to be used with a number of >>>> machines, they apparently did not make many of them because the cost for >> the >>>> adapter was almost as much as the original machine and Columbia did not >> make >>>> 4 minute cylinders (other than the Indestructible brand). It was also at >> the >>>> end of the cylinder age, when most people were starting to opt for disc >>>> records. >>>>> Curt >>>>> >>>>>> Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2012 11:32:56 -0700 >>>>>> From: [email protected] >>>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>>> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Fwd: Looking for info or a 2/4 minute >> attachmet. >>>>>> >>>>>> David, >>>>>> I went back and check with the Columbia Phonograph Companion Vol. 1, >> and >>>> you are very right. There was more than one attachmemt made to work. on >>>> different machines. >>>>>> Oops, Thank you for correcting me. I should have double checked my >>>> facts before talking out of foggy memory and scatchy mental pictues. >> Still >>>> I would love to find a BE 2/4 minute attachment. I wander if the other >>>> attachment for the BK might work on my Columbia Oxford, it was based on >> the >>>> BK but my Oxford Machinehad has the bedplate and gearing all look to be >>>> identical to the BK. The Oxford case is plain with trim around bedplate >> and >>>> base of machine. It is correct to be without decals of any kind other >> than >>>> the double pinsripe on the Japaned black lacker bedplate. Information >>>> passed on to me by Tim Fabrizio about the interesting fact that they did >> not >>>> decal the case at all, just plane oak. The tone arm conmected to the >> horn >>>> support is painted glossy black to match the backmount and bedplate, the >>>> elbow connecting to the reproducer and the slide tube are nickeled. The >>>> slide tube just turns under and connects to the elbow unlike the BKT >>>>>> that has a "U" Tube at the end of the slide. I have a really nice >>>> larger Columbia Black Petals Horn with raised accents aound each petal >> and >>>> there this is a double yellow rose decal on each of the petals too. I >>>> really like the way it looks with the black parts of the machine. >>>>>> >>>>>> I will attach a photo with this posting so you can see the machine. >> I >>>> am quite proud of it as I am sure you can tell. But not as proud as my >>>> mahogany Triumph and Home model A long case. >>>>>> Any ways David, I would like to say thanks for correcting me, I >> have >>>> learned many things from the post that have been made here. >>>>>> Kenneth Keeton >>>>>> >>>>>> PS:The Picture of my Oxford Cylinder Phonograph is as an Attachment >>>> within this post. >>>>>> >>>>>> ________________________________ >>>>>> From: "[email protected]"<[email protected]> >>>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>>> Sent: Monday, July 23, 2012 9:59 PM >>>>>> Subject: Fwd: [Phono-L] Looking for info or a 2/4 minute attachmet. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Ken, >>>>>> >>>>>> I believe the 2/4 minute attachment for a BE, BF, and BG is >> different >>>> than used on the BK, BO and BQ. I think I have a complete 2/4 minute >>>> attachment for the later, but I think it is different than what you >> need. >>>> If you are interested in the attachment for a BK, BO, or BQ, let me know >> and >>>> I'll locate it and send some pictures. >>>>>> >>>>>> Regards, >>>>>> David Boruff >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>> From: Ken aka: OnATorrent<[email protected]> >>>>>> To: Antique Phonograph List<[email protected]> >>>>>> Sent: Mon, Jul 23, 2012 9:34 am >>>>>> Subject: [Phono-L] Looking for info or a 2/4 minute attachmet. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Hello all, >>>>>> >>>>>> I posted a message several days ago and saw no replys. I have a >>>> Columbia BE in >>>>>> fantastic condition and I would really love to find a 2/4 minute >>>> attachment for >>>>>> it. It is the same attachment that fits the BK, BF, BG, BO and the >> BQ. >>>> If >>>>>> anyone has a complete attachment for sale I would really love to >> know >>>> and if you >>>>>> have any leads to where I can find one, it would be most helpful. >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks much as alwasy, >>>>>> Kenneth Keeton >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Phono-L mailing list >>>>>> http://phono-l.org/ >>>>>> -------------- next part -------------- >>>>>> A non-text attachment was scrubbed... >>>>>> Name: Oxford Cylinder Phonograph - 2 crop.jpg >>>>>> Type: image/jpeg >>>>>> Size: 1343378 bytes >>>>>> Desc: not available >>>>>> URL: >>>> >> <http://oldcrank.org/pipermail/phono-l/attachments/20120724/71d04ee3/attachm >>>> ent.jpg> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Phono-L mailing list >>>>>> http://phono-l.org/ >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Phono-L mailing list >>>>> http://phono-l.org/ >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Phono-L mailing list >>>>> http://phono-l.org/ >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Phono-L mailing list >>>> http://phono-l.org/ >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Phono-L mailing list >>>> http://phono-l.org/ >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Phono-L mailing list >>>> http://phono-l.org/ >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Phono-L mailing list >>> http://phono-l.org/ >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Phono-L mailing list >>> http://phono-l.org/ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Phono-L mailing list >> http://phono-l.org/ >> _______________________________________________ >> Phono-L mailing list >> http://phono-l.org/ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Phono-L mailing list >> http://phono-l.org/ >> _______________________________________________ >> Phono-L mailing list >> http://phono-l.org/ > > _______________________________________________ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.org/ > > _______________________________________________ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org/ _______________________________________________ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
