George Vollema - email: victrola(at)triton(dot)net
> Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2012 21:21:17 -0700 > From: onatorr...@yahoo.com > To: phono-l@oldcrank.org > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Looking for a screw for a BK.... > > Ron, > I don't know George Vollema that I know of. Is he here in the Phono-L list ? > If not how do I contact him? > Ken > > > ________________________________ > From: Ron L'Herault <lhera...@bu.edu> > To: 'Antique Phonograph List' <phono-l@oldcrank.org> > Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2012 9:28 PM > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Looking for a screw for a BK.... > > I think you are looking for a set screw, or grub screw, probably slotted. > Try searching for that. have you asked George Vollema? > > Ron L > > -----Original Message----- > From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] On > Behalf Of Ken aka: OnATorrent > Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2012 4:18 PM > To: Antique Phonograph List > Subject: [Phono-L] Looking for a screw for a BK.... > > Hello all, > > I am looking now for a headless screw for a Columba BK. It is the size 5-40 > and holds the rod that he caraige slides across above the feed screw and > gear. It's for the rod that is in front of the mandrel. There is only one > screw and it goes on the left side of the rod. This is the BK with the > black bedplate. I am hoping I can find some one with an original one that I > do not have to alter. I called Dwyane Wyatt and he only has one that I > would have to screw in and then cut off. That is not the way I want to go > about it if I can help it. If any one has one I would be very happy to > purchase it. > I would also like to thank EVERYONE for all the help I have been given > here. I live in a very rural mile square town with it being over 100 miles > to the nearest city. It is so nice to be able to be in contact with other > collectors even though I do not get to meet anyone face to face. Maybe I > will be able to make it to the next Orlando, Florida show and get to see > some old friends and make some new ones. > Kenneth > > > ________________________________ > From: Vinyl Visions <vinyl.visi...@live.com> > To: "phono-l@oldcrank.org" <phono-l@oldcrank.org> > Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2012 2:19 PM > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Fwd: Looking for info or a 2/4 minute attachment. > > > Hi Ken,Please explain what you meant by the right hand side of the > attachment was missing... If it is just the bearing on the right side, you > already have one in your machine. He couldn't be referring to the feedscrew, > since that is permanently attached to the 2/4 gearing. The only other thing > would be the feedscrew tube, which you also already have. So, if he has the > feedscrew with the round gear case assembly attached and he has the BE plate > that has the locking post on it, you should be good. You might also need the > screws to attach the plate and the tube. Send a pic if you have one. Also, > let me know what he is asking, if you don't mind. My email is: > vinyl(dot)visions(at)live(dot)comCurt > > > Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2012 06:45:35 -0700 > > From: onatorr...@yahoo.com > > To: phono-l@oldcrank.org > > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Fwd: Looking for info or a 2/4 minute attachment. > > > > I have a large collection of Edison 2 minute cylinders and was just in > fear that he diamond stylus in the H stylus would carve out or damage the > grooves in the was cylinders. I know what you mean about wax breaking. I > just broke my copy of Bake Dat Chicken Pie and I was almost in tears over > it. Lucky for me I found someone willing to sell thiers and it is in better > condition than mine was. So I guess it all worke out for the good. But > thanks for your input. I think I have found a 2/4 minute attachment for my > Sears Oxford that was made after the BKT so the BK conversion attachment > will work on it. How cool is that? Still no luck on a complete Colubia BE > 2/4 minute attachment. I found someone that has most of one but missing the > right hand side of it. I told him if he can find the other part I would be > more than happy to buy it. > > Again, thanks for all your help, > > Ken > > > > > > ________________________________ > > From: Vinyl Visions <vinyl.visi...@live.com> > > To: "phono-l@oldcrank.org" <phono-l@oldcrank.org> > > Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2012 8:56 AM > > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Fwd: Looking for info or a 2/4 minute attachment. > > > > > > Hi Ken,Yes, you can play 2 minute cylinders with an H stylus. However, > that being said, I am not a big fan of playing wax cylinders. I don't > particularly like the brittleness of the original wax and hate it when one > breaks... also, I like the music on the Blue Amberols and Indestructibles > better, so that is what I collect. Everybody has a different idea about > this, but I have a friend who just paid a large sum for a 2 min 6" Columbia > cylinder at Union and when he got home it fell out of the box and shattered > :( Curt > > > > > Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2012 22:57:04 -0700 > > > From: onatorr...@yahoo.com > > > To: phono-l@oldcrank.org > > > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Fwd: Looking for info or a 2/4 minute > attachment. > > > > > > Bob and Curt, > > > If I do have an Edison H Stylus put in my Lyric reproducer by Steven > Medved, would I still be able to play 2 minute record with out damage to > them? The Edison 4 minute diamond stylus doesn't work on Edison 2 minute > records, does it? I have always used a K reproducer so I can switch between > 2 and 4 minute cylinders. > > > This is all a learning experience for me about Columbia reproducers and > conversion kits and the change in stylus needed. > > > Thanks to you both for your help, I really appreciate it very much. > Honestly even though I might not post always post on Phono-L, I do get a lot > out of it and everyone that I have met here has been more than helpful. I > must say if it was not for Joan and Rob Rolfs in 1993 and how they > introduced me to thier new Charter Chapter of M.A.P.S. in Wisconsin when I > was only 26. Without meeting them I would have missed out on one of the > greatist joys in my life. Now that I have been collecting for 19 years and > 45 years old, I still learn new things and always will and other than that I > feel I have met some of the nicest and honest people here that always reach > out to me when I am in need of help. > > > Thanks to you both Bob and Curt, and thanks to everyone else that has > made this a very enjoyable experience! > > > Kenneth Keeton > > > > > > PS: Sometime I will have to post here the story of how I just happened > to walk in to collecting phonographs and how it was for me at an early age. > I feel I have a very interesting story that goes to show how wonderful our > collecting community is. > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > From: Bob Maffit <maff...@bresnan.net> > > > To: 'Antique Phonograph List' <phono-l@oldcrank.org> > > > Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 11:23 PM > > > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Fwd: Looking for info or a 2/4 minute > attachment. > > > > > > Ken: > > > > > > I can attest to the same, Steve does very credible work at a "down to > earth" > > > price. > > > > > > later > > > > > > Bob > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] > On > > > Behalf Of Vinyl Visions > > > Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 8:14 PM > > > To: phono-l@oldcrank.org > > > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Fwd: Looking for info or a 2/4 minute attachmet. > > > > > > > > > Ken,If you do find a 2/4 conversion kit, you will also need a 4 minute > > > stylus in your Lyric reproducer. Finding a 4 min original Columbia > > > reproducer is another needle in a haystack and not cheap. I sent my > original > > > 2 minute Lyric to Steven Medved and he installed an Edison H needle bar > and > > > stylus, along with a copper diaphragm, which works perfectly and solved > my > > > problem. Steven is on the list frequently, so when you need him, just > ask... > > > he does great work.Curt > > > > > > > Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2012 14:48:47 -0700 > > > > From: onatorr...@yahoo.com > > > > To: phono-l@oldcrank.org > > > > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Fwd: Looking for info or a 2/4 minute > attachmet. > > > > > > > > Curt, > > > > Thanks for all the information. I printed it out so I can refer back > to > > > it later. I do that with some posts so that it is easy for me to > remember > > > and cataloged. > > > > Thanks again, > > > > Kenneth > > > > PS: I book marked your welcome page. > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > > From: Vinyl Visions <vinyl.visi...@live.com> > > > > To: "phono-l@oldcrank.org" <phono-l@oldcrank.org> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 5:05 PM > > > > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Fwd: Looking for info or a 2/4 minute > attachmet. > > > > > > > > > > > > Ken, > > > > If you would like to see what a BE conversion looks like, go to our > > > webpage: http://www.carolinaphonosociety.com/ After clicking on ENTER, > you > > > will be on the page with a woman and Nipper - at the top of the page, > click > > > on the link "Columbia BF 2-4 minute conversion" > > > > I recently did the same thing you are attempting to do with your BE, > to my > > > BF machine. However, I could not find the actual BF conversion kit and > > > adapted a BE conversion kit to work. The main difference between the two > is > > > the length of the feedscrew. The BE is approx. 8" long and the BF is > approx. > > > 10" long - the adaptation would not have worked in reverse - a BF kit > will > > > not work on a BE. > > > > No one seemed to know much about Columbia 2/4 conversions when I was > > > researching mine earlier this year, so I have learned quite a bit about > > > them. First, if you find a kit, it has to include a feedscrew with the > > > gearing attached and an adapter plate with a locking post for the > conversion > > > to work. Make sure all the parts are there before purchasing one, > because > > > they are a needle in a haystack to find. The pics of my machine with the > BE > > > adapter on it are on the above website. > > > > Although, Columbia made the adapter kits to be used with a number of > > > machines, they apparently did not make many of them because the cost for > the > > > adapter was almost as much as the original machine and Columbia did not > make > > > 4 minute cylinders (other than the Indestructible brand). It was also at > the > > > end of the cylinder age, when most people were starting to opt for disc > > > records. > > > > Curt > > > > > > > > > Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2012 11:32:56 -0700 > > > > > From: onatorr...@yahoo.com > > > > > To: phono-l@oldcrank.org > > > > > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Fwd: Looking for info or a 2/4 minute > attachmet. > > > > > > > > > > David, > > > > > I went back and check with the Columbia Phonograph Companion Vol. 1, > and > > > you are very right. There was more than one attachmemt made to work. on > > > different machines. > > > > > Oops, Thank you for correcting me. I should have double checked my > > > facts before talking out of foggy memory and scatchy mental pictues. > Still > > > I would love to find a BE 2/4 minute attachment. I wander if the other > > > attachment for the BK might work on my Columbia Oxford, it was based on > the > > > BK but my Oxford Machinehad has the bedplate and gearing all look to be > > > identical to the BK. The Oxford case is plain with trim around bedplate > and > > > base of machine. It is correct to be without decals of any kind other > than > > > the double pinsripe on the Japaned black lacker bedplate. Information > > > passed on to me by Tim Fabrizio about the interesting fact that they did > not > > > decal the case at all, just plane oak. The tone arm conmected to the > horn > > > support is painted glossy black to match the backmount and bedplate, the > > > elbow connecting to the reproducer and the slide tube are nickeled. The > > > slide tube just turns under and connects to the elbow unlike the BKT > > > > > that has a "U" Tube at the end of the slide. I have a really nice > > > larger Columbia Black Petals Horn with raised accents aound each petal > and > > > there this is a double yellow rose decal on each of the petals too. I > > > really like the way it looks with the black parts of the machine. > > > > > > > > > > I will attach a photo with this posting so you can see the machine. > I > > > am quite proud of it as I am sure you can tell. But not as proud as my > > > mahogany Triumph and Home model A long case. > > > > > Any ways David, I would like to say thanks for correcting me, I > have > > > learned many things from the post that have been made here. > > > > > Kenneth Keeton > > > > > > > > > > PS:The Picture of my Oxford Cylinder Phonograph is as an Attachment > > > within this post. > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > > > From: "drbor...@aol.com" <drbor...@aol.com> > > > > > To: onatorr...@yahoo.com > > > > > Sent: Monday, July 23, 2012 9:59 PM > > > > > Subject: Fwd: [Phono-L] Looking for info or a 2/4 minute attachmet. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ken, > > > > > > > > > > I believe the 2/4 minute attachment for a BE, BF, and BG is > different > > > than used on the BK, BO and BQ. I think I have a complete 2/4 minute > > > attachment for the later, but I think it is different than what you > need. > > > If you are interested in the attachment for a BK, BO, or BQ, let me know > and > > > I'll locate it and send some pictures. > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > David Boruff > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > From: Ken aka: OnATorrent <onatorr...@yahoo.com> > > > > > To: Antique Phonograph List <phono-l@oldcrank.org> > > > > > Sent: Mon, Jul 23, 2012 9:34 am > > > > > Subject: [Phono-L] Looking for info or a 2/4 minute attachmet. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello all, > > > > > > > > > > I posted a message several days ago and saw no replys. I have a > > > Columbia BE in > > > > > fantastic condition and I would really love to find a 2/4 minute > > > attachment for > > > > > it. It is the same attachment that fits the BK, BF, BG, BO and the > BQ. > > > If > > > > > anyone has a complete attachment for sale I would really love to > know > > > and if you > > > > > have any leads to where I can find one, it would be most helpful. > > > > > > > > > > Thanks much as alwasy, > > > > > Kenneth Keeton > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > Phono-L mailing list > > > > > http://phono-l.org/ > > > > > -------------- next part -------------- > > > > > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > > > > > Name: Oxford Cylinder Phonograph - 2 crop.jpg > > > > > Type: image/jpeg > > > > > Size: 1343378 bytes > > > > > Desc: not available > > > > > URL: > > > > <http://oldcrank.org/pipermail/phono-l/attachments/20120724/71d04ee3/attachm > > > ent.jpg> > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > Phono-L mailing list > > > > > http://phono-l.org/ > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Phono-L mailing list > > > > http://phono-l.org/ > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Phono-L mailing list > > > > http://phono-l.org/ > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Phono-L mailing list > > > http://phono-l.org/ > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Phono-L mailing list > > > http://phono-l.org/ > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Phono-L mailing list > > > http://phono-l.org/ > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Phono-L mailing list > > http://phono-l.org/ > > _______________________________________________ > > Phono-L mailing list > > http://phono-l.org/ > > _______________________________________________ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.org/ > _______________________________________________ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.org/ > > _______________________________________________ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.org/ > _______________________________________________ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.org _______________________________________________ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
