Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2012 21:21:17 -0700
From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Looking for a screw for a BK....
Ron,
I don't know George Vollema that I know of. Is he here in the
Phono-L list ? If not how do I contact him?
Ken
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From: Ron L'Herault<[email protected]>
To: 'Antique Phonograph List'<[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2012 9:28 PM
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Looking for a screw for a BK....
I think you are looking for a set screw, or grub screw, probably
slotted.
Try searching for that. have you asked George Vollema?
Ron L
-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On
Behalf Of Ken aka: OnATorrent
Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2012 4:18 PM
To: Antique Phonograph List
Subject: [Phono-L] Looking for a screw for a BK....
Hello all,
I am looking now for a headless screw for a Columba BK. It is the
size 5-40
and holds the rod that he caraige slides across above the feed screw
and
gear. It's for the rod that is in front of the mandrel. There is
only one
screw and it goes on the left side of the rod. This is the BK with the
black bedplate. I am hoping I can find some one with an original
one that I
do not have to alter. I called Dwyane Wyatt and he only has one that I
would have to screw in and then cut off. That is not the way I want
to go
about it if I can help it. If any one has one I would be very happy to
purchase it.
I would also like to thank EVERYONE for all the help I have been given
here. I live in a very rural mile square town with it being over
100 miles
to the nearest city. It is so nice to be able to be in contact with
other
collectors even though I do not get to meet anyone face to face.
Maybe I
will be able to make it to the next Orlando, Florida show and get to
see
some old friends and make some new ones.
Kenneth
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From: Vinyl Visions<[email protected]>
To: "[email protected]"<[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2012 2:19 PM
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Fwd: Looking for info or a 2/4 minute
attachment.
Hi Ken,Please explain what you meant by the right hand side of the
attachment was missing... If it is just the bearing on the right
side, you
already have one in your machine. He couldn't be referring to the
feedscrew,
since that is permanently attached to the 2/4 gearing. The only
other thing
would be the feedscrew tube, which you also already have. So, if he
has the
feedscrew with the round gear case assembly attached and he has the
BE plate
that has the locking post on it, you should be good. You might also
need the
screws to attach the plate and the tube. Send a pic if you have one.
Also,
let me know what he is asking, if you don't mind. My email is:
vinyl(dot)visions(at)live(dot)comCurt
Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2012 06:45:35 -0700
From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Fwd: Looking for info or a 2/4 minute
attachment.
I have a large collection of Edison 2 minute cylinders and was just in
fear that he diamond stylus in the H stylus would carve out or
damage the
grooves in the was cylinders. I know what you mean about wax
breaking. I
just broke my copy of Bake Dat Chicken Pie and I was almost in tears
over
it. Lucky for me I found someone willing to sell thiers and it is
in better
condition than mine was. So I guess it all worke out for the good.
But
thanks for your input. I think I have found a 2/4 minute attachment
for my
Sears Oxford that was made after the BKT so the BK conversion
attachment
will work on it. How cool is that? Still no luck on a complete
Colubia BE
2/4 minute attachment. I found someone that has most of one but
missing the
right hand side of it. I told him if he can find the other part I
would be
more than happy to buy it.
Again, thanks for all your help,
Ken
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From: Vinyl Visions<[email protected]>
To: "[email protected]"<[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2012 8:56 AM
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Fwd: Looking for info or a 2/4 minute
attachment.
Hi Ken,Yes, you can play 2 minute cylinders with an H stylus. However,
that being said, I am not a big fan of playing wax cylinders. I don't
particularly like the brittleness of the original wax and hate it
when one
breaks... also, I like the music on the Blue Amberols and
Indestructibles
better, so that is what I collect. Everybody has a different idea about
this, but I have a friend who just paid a large sum for a 2 min 6"
Columbia
cylinder at Union and when he got home it fell out of the box and
shattered
:( Curt
Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2012 22:57:04 -0700
From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Fwd: Looking for info or a 2/4 minute
attachment.
Bob and Curt,
If I do have an Edison H Stylus put in my Lyric reproducer by Steven
Medved, would I still be able to play 2 minute record with out
damage to
them? The Edison 4 minute diamond stylus doesn't work on Edison 2
minute
records, does it? I have always used a K reproducer so I can switch
between
2 and 4 minute cylinders.
This is all a learning experience for me about Columbia
reproducers and
conversion kits and the change in stylus needed.
Thanks to you both for your help, I really appreciate it very much.
Honestly even though I might not post always post on Phono-L, I do
get a lot
out of it and everyone that I have met here has been more than
helpful. I
must say if it was not for Joan and Rob Rolfs in 1993 and how they
introduced me to thier new Charter Chapter of M.A.P.S. in Wisconsin
when I
was only 26. Without meeting them I would have missed out on one of the
greatist joys in my life. Now that I have been collecting for 19
years and
45 years old, I still learn new things and always will and other
than that I
feel I have met some of the nicest and honest people here that
always reach
out to me when I am in need of help.
Thanks to you both Bob and Curt, and thanks to everyone else that has
made this a very enjoyable experience!
Kenneth Keeton
PS: Sometime I will have to post here the story of how I just
happened
to walk in to collecting phonographs and how it was for me at an
early age.
I feel I have a very interesting story that goes to show how
wonderful our
collecting community is.
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From: Bob Maffit<[email protected]>
To: 'Antique Phonograph List'<[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 11:23 PM
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Fwd: Looking for info or a 2/4 minute
attachment.
Ken:
I can attest to the same, Steve does very credible work at a "down to
earth"
price.
later
Bob
-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]]
On
Behalf Of Vinyl Visions
Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 8:14 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Fwd: Looking for info or a 2/4 minute
attachmet.
Ken,If you do find a 2/4 conversion kit, you will also need a 4
minute
stylus in your Lyric reproducer. Finding a 4 min original Columbia
reproducer is another needle in a haystack and not cheap. I sent my
original
2 minute Lyric to Steven Medved and he installed an Edison H
needle bar
and
stylus, along with a copper diaphragm, which works perfectly and
solved
my
problem. Steven is on the list frequently, so when you need him, just
ask...
he does great work.Curt
Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2012 14:48:47 -0700
From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Fwd: Looking for info or a 2/4 minute
attachmet.
Curt,
Thanks for all the information. I printed it out so I can refer
back
to
it later. I do that with some posts so that it is easy for me to
remember
and cataloged.
Thanks again,
Kenneth
PS: I book marked your welcome page.
________________________________
From: Vinyl Visions<[email protected]>
To: "[email protected]"<[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 5:05 PM
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Fwd: Looking for info or a 2/4 minute
attachmet.
Ken,
If you would like to see what a BE conversion looks like, go to our
webpage: http://www.carolinaphonosociety.com/ After clicking on
ENTER,
you
will be on the page with a woman and Nipper - at the top of the page,
click
on the link "Columbia BF 2-4 minute conversion"
I recently did the same thing you are attempting to do with your BE,
to my
BF machine. However, I could not find the actual BF conversion kit
and
adapted a BE conversion kit to work. The main difference between
the two
is
the length of the feedscrew. The BE is approx. 8" long and the BF is
approx.
10" long - the adaptation would not have worked in reverse - a BF kit
will
not work on a BE.
No one seemed to know much about Columbia 2/4 conversions when I was
researching mine earlier this year, so I have learned quite a bit
about
them. First, if you find a kit, it has to include a feedscrew with
the
gearing attached and an adapter plate with a locking post for the
conversion
to work. Make sure all the parts are there before purchasing one,
because
they are a needle in a haystack to find. The pics of my machine
with the
BE
adapter on it are on the above website.
Although, Columbia made the adapter kits to be used with a number of
machines, they apparently did not make many of them because the
cost for
the
adapter was almost as much as the original machine and Columbia
did not
make
4 minute cylinders (other than the Indestructible brand). It was
also at
the
end of the cylinder age, when most people were starting to opt for
disc
records.
Curt
Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2012 11:32:56 -0700
From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Fwd: Looking for info or a 2/4 minute
attachmet.
David,
I went back and check with the Columbia Phonograph Companion
Vol. 1,
and
you are very right. There was more than one attachmemt made to
work. on
different machines.
Oops, Thank you for correcting me. I should have double checked my
facts before talking out of foggy memory and scatchy mental pictues.
Still
I would love to find a BE 2/4 minute attachment. I wander if the
other
attachment for the BK might work on my Columbia Oxford, it was
based on
the
BK but my Oxford Machinehad has the bedplate and gearing all look
to be
identical to the BK. The Oxford case is plain with trim around
bedplate
and
base of machine. It is correct to be without decals of any kind other
than
the double pinsripe on the Japaned black lacker bedplate.
Information
passed on to me by Tim Fabrizio about the interesting fact that
they did
not
decal the case at all, just plane oak. The tone arm conmected to the
horn
support is painted glossy black to match the backmount and
bedplate, the
elbow connecting to the reproducer and the slide tube are
nickeled. The
slide tube just turns under and connects to the elbow unlike the BKT
that has a "U" Tube at the end of the slide. I have a really
nice
larger Columbia Black Petals Horn with raised accents aound each
petal
and
there this is a double yellow rose decal on each of the petals
too. I
really like the way it looks with the black parts of the machine.
I will attach a photo with this posting so you can see the machine.
I
am quite proud of it as I am sure you can tell. But not as proud
as my
mahogany Triumph and Home model A long case.
Any ways David, I would like to say thanks for correcting me, I
have
learned many things from the post that have been made here.
Kenneth Keeton
PS:The Picture of my Oxford Cylinder Phonograph is as an Attachment
within this post.
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From: "[email protected]"<[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Monday, July 23, 2012 9:59 PM
Subject: Fwd: [Phono-L] Looking for info or a 2/4 minute attachmet.
Ken,
I believe the 2/4 minute attachment for a BE, BF, and BG is
different
than used on the BK, BO and BQ. I think I have a complete 2/4 minute
attachment for the later, but I think it is different than what you
need.
If you are interested in the attachment for a BK, BO, or BQ, let
me know
and
I'll locate it and send some pictures.
Regards,
David Boruff
-----Original Message-----
From: Ken aka: OnATorrent<[email protected]>
To: Antique Phonograph List<[email protected]>
Sent: Mon, Jul 23, 2012 9:34 am
Subject: [Phono-L] Looking for info or a 2/4 minute attachmet.
Hello all,
I posted a message several days ago and saw no replys. I have a
Columbia BE in
fantastic condition and I would really love to find a 2/4 minute
attachment for
it. It is the same attachment that fits the BK, BF, BG, BO and the
BQ.
If
anyone has a complete attachment for sale I would really love to
know
and if you
have any leads to where I can find one, it would be most helpful.
Thanks much as alwasy,
Kenneth Keeton
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