Hi Ron,

I have a Vitaphone model 60 which is the consolette version of this machine. Yes, I'd say it is "anemic" compared with most other machines of this vintage. The reason is pretty obvious - the design of the acoustic system is pretty silly. What appears to be the "tonearm" is more easily understood as being actually a HUGE stylus bar. The long wooden piece has the needle attached at the front end and it is expected to transmit the needle vibrations along the length of this wooden bar to a string at the back end which is coupled under tension to the center of the reproducer diaphragm which is located at the back of the tonearm. The actual tonearm is a metal structure positioned under the wooden bar that has a vertical and lateral pivot near the front that supports the wooden needle bar and allows both vertical and lateral wiggling of the wooden bar. As you can suspect, the compliance of this arrangement is ridiculously poor with a HUGE amount of mass (the whole wooden bar) having to be moved by the needle. The string that couples the back of the wooden bar to the diaphragm can be strung over a metal hook at the back of the lateral tonearm pivot stanchion which causes the tension in the string to be directed kinda sorta laterally to the diaphragm. This is the way the system is supposed to be set to play lateral records. The more direct linkage of the string drawing down vertically from the diaphragm (not threaded over the metal hook) is the setup for playing vertical records. As you might expect, the vertical setup is more efficient and sensitive than the lateral setup. Consequently, I most often use my Vitaphone to play Pathe Sapphire discs with a sapphire ball stylus in the needle chuck. It sounds better playing Pathes than any lateral records. Theoretically, you could play Edison DDs by mounting an Edison diamond point in the needle chuck. But the tonearm friction is high enough that I haven't wanted to try playing DDs on the machine. In any case, the sound transmission thru the bizarre needle bar system is pretty inefficient and lossy which makes the Vitaphone have little volume compared with more conventional players, either Edisons, Pathes, or Victors. And the high moving mass of the wooden bar causes considerable loss of treble response, so the sound is pretty mellow compared with other machines. It's actually fairly pleasant and less honky than other acoustic players.

The other weirdness of the model 60 is the complicated plumbing that connects the diaphragm output to the horn which is inside the LID of the player! So there are swivel joints that allow the horn to be tilted upward with the lid as it is raised, while still enabling the acoustic plumbing to remain intact and functional. So it will play through the horn with the lid either open or closed. Definitely different. Still, it's a neat looking piece that is seldom seen and it does work after a fashion. I have pictures of my model 60 if you would like to see them.

Greg Bogantz



----- Original Message ----- From: "Ron L'Herault" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]>; "'Antique Phonograph List'" <[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, September 13, 2013 1:44 PM
Subject: [Phono-L] Vitaphone acoustic machine


A few MOCAPS members have been discussing the lateral/vertical Vitaphone
phono from the teens, early 20s.   Only one member heard one 20 or more
years ago and that one may have been unrestored.   He found it "anemic"
sounding.  Soooo, I was wondering if any listmate(s) have a restored
Vitaphone (it has a wooden tone arm and connects to the diaphragm via a
string AFAIK).   How does it sound compared to the Name brand machines of
the same era?

Thanks,


Ron L

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