> > Ok?

> Great, that explains better than "most" of the tutorials I've read.
> It is unfortunate that most if not all reference documentation expect
> reader to have a college degree just on their subject in order to
> "wot in 'ell" they're saying.
> I've done pretty well in figuring out many thing on my own but
sometimes ya
> just need an expert to chip in and make yer day.
> My thanks,

My pleasure.

In fact the MySQL manual is a cut above many/most 'out there', but as
you say it is a reference manual, ie a set of rules and regulations to
describe the functionality - more like a dictionary than an
encyclopedia - and not many people's idea of relaxing bed-time reading!

By contrast, the tutorial sites are designed to 'teach' the use of such
functionality. Taking a PHP example, I noted the LIST() and FOR EACH
construct in the manual, and pretty much said "yes, ok, so", but it was
only when I worked through a tutorial which put them together that I saw
a neat and powerful way to manipulate associative arrays (ok, maybe that
says more about me than reference manuals and tutorials, but...).

If you have done some programming before, or if you are confident in
your ability to pick up the basics, then I recommend "PHP and MySQL Web
Development" by Welling and Thomson, SAMS, to you. It has a good
tutorial style (beyond presuming introductory PHP/programming knowledge)
and presents the combination of PHP and MySQL in a series of practical
applications/scenarios. I found it very good - but then I have used SQL
before and several other programming languages. If the starting point is
not a problem, it should also appeal to your interest/approach.


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